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Who is feeling "the need...the need for speed....."

post #1 of 31
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Please post your stories/desires for the "the need....the need for speed...."

 

Your story very well will be rewarded.


Edited by Philpug - 7/26/10 at 2:49pm
post #2 of 31

Sometimes the whole mountain, upper and lower, opens at the same time. 

 

When that happens on a powder day, it means that some of the upper lifts are turning, open, with no line, while you are riding one of the first few chairs or cars up the mountain. 

 

This creates the lure of getting first chairs on the upper mountain lift.

 

 A mile or so of wide fresh groomed powder trail separates the top of one lift and the bottom of the next.

 

This creates the need...the need for speed. And for powder skis that go fast. 

 

Half the people in front of you are staying here; the other half is going on. About 25 skiers in front of you and the chair is a six pack. Your mind is doing the math. First 5 chairs should be able to spread out and get just about anything they want. 

 

There are of course 100 skiers behind you that would like to move up via the transition.

 

That's the deal. See ya' .

post #3 of 31
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

Sometimes the whole mountain, upper and lower, opens at the same time. 

 

When that happens on a powder day, it means that some of the upper lifts are turning, open, with no line, while you are riding one of the first few chairs or cars up the mountain. 

 

This creates the lure of getting first chairs on the upper mountain lift.

 

 A mile or so of wide fresh groomed powder trail separates the top of one lift and the bottom of the next.

 

This creates the need...the need for speed. And for powder skis that go fast. 

 

Half the people in front of you are staying here; the other half is going on. About 25 skiers in front of you and the chair is a six pack. Your mind is doing the math. First 5 chairs should be able to spread out and get just about anything they want. 

 

There are of course 100 skiers behind you that would like to move up via the transition.

 

That's the deal. See ya' .


I'm dying to one day see The Fingers race on a powder day.
 

post #4 of 31
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post




I'm dying to one day see The Fingers race on a powder day.
 


you'll want to be about 100 people back in line, somewhere in there to watch from the chair, or the first 25 to.......

 

post #5 of 31

When are you doing the awards?

post #6 of 31
Thread Starter 

We need to get some good SPEEEEED stories here. Bring them. The prize is very much SPEEEEED related. Bring on the SPEEEED. DId I say that this was about going fast? 

post #7 of 31


Here you go.  It's recycled, but you forgot to give my a prize last time around.

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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
Years (edit: not sure how many) ago I was skiing on Vancouver Island. I had decided to go to Forbidden Plateau instead of Mt. Washington that day, to try it out and because I had a "feeling" I had been pushing my luck a little too much and something not nice was going to happen, so I chose a smaller hill where I would maybe generate a little less speed.

On the first or second run of the day I somehow got crossed up and did a serries of cartwheels from about 30 mph into about 12 feet of soft snow. Absolutely no damage! This accident emboldened me. I was indestructible! Boy oh boy, what a change from the ice out east!

On the very next run I checked the trail map and chose my route to coincide with the downhill they held there once a year (not very fast for a downhill maybe 75 mph). There was hardly anyone on the hill. I waited for 10 minutes for it to clear. I pointed my tips at the bottom. And shusshed it!

I saw a slight rise approaching after a fairly steep section which was I expected to be followed by a drop (I hadn't even pre run it: ). I didn't have my trusty Scott tint goggles. When I was about 4 car- lengths away from the "rise" I realized it was a ridge that went all the way across the hill, and that it had the shape of a volkswagon beetle: ). I turned my skis sideways and dug both 208-cm edges into the snow in full brake mode until I was about 10 feet from the bump. Then I pointed the tips forward, extended my legs as high as I could and still have some angel in them. I remembered from my hay-loft jumping days, not to bang my chin on my knee when I absorbed the bump...........

.........I hear a wushing noise, and am trying to figure out what it is, then I see, a beautiful shade of blue. I put two and two together and realize that I am flying through the air. I experience an extreme joy. Then I see a little bit of green out of the corner of my eye. It is the top of a very tall evergreen tree. I then realize where I am; I am flying on my back at tree-top level without a plane.

I was able to get the skis under me, but did not have time to get them pointed straight down the hill. They were crossed at the back. One ski has the top sheet cut through near the tip of the tail to remind me not to be reckless anymore. The Tyrolia 490 let go as per design. I remember distinctly that even though I didn't even have time to point my skis, I had time to consider in concise detail how to angle my feet forwards so that I didn't stick into the snow when I landed. I touched feet first three more times before I stuck into the snow. When my feet finally stuck I went over sideways and forwards.

I got up, I was up to my chest in soft snow. No broken bones, but I felt a bit woosy. I decided the day was now shot, as I was in no condition to do any exciting skiing. So I took my very first ski lesson. I learned a lot that day.

The next day my head had cleared up, but I did something to my back putting on my sock the next morning. It was an uncomfortable drive back to Ontario in my chevette.

That, my friends was the last time I skied a fast run absolutely as fast as I could.
post #8 of 31
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

We need to get some good SPEEEEED stories here. Bring them. The prize is very much SPEEEEED related. Bring on the SPEEEED. DId I say that this was about going fast? 



The chinese downhill on KT to get to Headwall (untouched) is all about speeeeed! 75 chute, or Rock Garden, or Saddle groomer, it's about havin' a hunch and machin' head to head. Hecka' fast. We'll see you there this year, correcto?

 

Funny image: at Squaw there is a sign on a lift tower that shows a female Native American in trite 50's attire tucking with the caption: ski fast, lose pass. The thing is, right as you see that, the Palisades are in the background and skiers are dropping chutes at 60mph right into the bowl, apron runout.

post #9 of 31

Okay, I'll jot down a couple of quick ones.

 

Copper Mtn, I was on one of the first few Super Bee chairs on a 6" morning.  Noticed a nice figure eleven leading down to the bottom.  Those same tracks kept revealing themselves higher and higher for the entire eleven minute ride on this high speed lift.  Not one stop, not one check, just a clean, straight shot, a 2300' schuss.  Someone obviously had the need.

 

Same part of the same mountain but at the end of a different day.  Skiing with the Don and Betsy Denver and Mr. Vertical.  We were at the top of the mountain and decided to head down to the Super Bee.  We had a fun run for about 1000' or so then regrouped at the top of Rosi's Run.  After a short chat we pointed 'em down.  Now, this is an area I've skied quite a bit and I nearly always head to the right and rip down Treble Cliff.  It's a wide run with good visibility.  Often empty, I'm pretty sure I've skied this run faster than any other.  Easily north of the double nickle.

 

This day was no different.  I got to the top of TC, could see that it was empty and could not resist.  I needed to indulge my need for speed.  Down I went, arriving at the lift maze with a grin on my face and all my friends behind me... somewhere.

 

I waited.....and waited.  Finally I spot all of them at the top of the little bump shot under the lift between TC and Rosi's Run.  I watched them all ace that shot then watched the rest of their turns until they were within shouting distance.

 

"Where did you go!?"  Betsy asked incredulously.

 

"I burned Treble Cliff like I always do."  I responded.

 

"Some bump freak you are!"

 

What can I say?  I had the need for speed!

post #10 of 31

Early morning sunshine, cold temps, fresh roy, Jackson Hole, mountain not open for the public yet:

 

 

post #11 of 31

I have gone 70mph on fat twin tips at the bird on hardpack. It was confirmed by a radar gun. I did so only because people on here were saying stupid things and needed to be proved wrong. 

post #12 of 31

Bob: that reeeeeeally looked like fun. NICE!

post #13 of 31

This story is totally visual. We'll try a mind's eye film for you. And the photo is Chimney Chute. The camera stands atop Pony ExpressIMG_0535 [1024x768].JPG

 

Setting the scene: When you ride Siberia Chair, the Palisades are to your left. Chimney chute is the closest cliff to the chair and the nearest run of the actual chute (the Pony Express line) is eclipsed visually by a slight ridge. You can't see the surface they ski. You are seeing about 8 feet above that surface, with Main and Extra chutes in the background.

 

the skier: So I'm riding up Siberia to do some bootpacking, and I'm watching the skiers dropping the 'Sades to get some ideas, and I see Joe coming down Express. I see him for a second, fully launched and carwheeling in a perfect starfish, white powder and blue sky behind him. He is gone, eclipsed by the ridge. He is in the air again clear as a bell, seemingly floating effortlessly still starfishing. Down and disappears. Up and spinning. four reps. It was the coolest thing ever.

 

denoument: "Joe, that was so cool!"  "You liked that, did you?" "If you're OK I did"

 

note: starfish: when you fall at very high speed and begin to cartwheel through the air, touching down about every 40 feet. the centrifugal force is so strong that your arms and legs are actually pulled spread straight out, in a star shape. The Pony Express line is about a 60mph straight line at 55% pitch.

 

Joe rides a Stockli Stormrider Scott Schmidt in a 190 something

post #14 of 31
Thread Starter 

Thanks for playing along 

post #15 of 31
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

I have gone 70mph on fat twin tips at the bird on hardpack. It was confirmed by a radar gun. I did so only because people on here were saying stupid things and needed to be proved wrong. 



that gun must have been the one the CHP used to cite me and then turned it in for one that worked.

post #16 of 31
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

I have gone 70mph on fat twin tips at the bird on hardpack. It was confirmed by a radar gun. I did so only because people on here were saying stupid things and needed to be proved wrong. 


You didn't prove anything about the stability or sensibility of 70 mph on twin tips. Only that you are _____ (lots of words apply) enough to try it. They don't race on fat twin tips in DH because they aren't the right ski for the job. Sure, they could, but why would they want to? It would be like racing a VW Beetle in the Indy 500.
 

post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

Early morning sunshine, cold temps, fresh roy, Jackson Hole, mountain not open for the public yet:

 

 



Awesome vid, Bob..., The quality is great also.. Do you have an idea how fast were you going????

post #18 of 31
Thread Starter 

Thank You for playing. There will be someone receiving an oblong box from a brown truck next week. 

post #19 of 31
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Originally Posted by MastersRacer View Post




You didn't prove anything about the stability or sensibility of 70 mph on twin tips. Only that you are _____ (lots of words apply) enough to try it. They don't race on fat twin tips in DH because they aren't the right ski for the job. Sure, they could, but why would they want to? It would be like racing a VW Beetle in the Indy 500.
 

 

we did it because people on here said you couldnt go over 25 mph on normal equipment when I knew we could.
 

post #20 of 31

I got roped into racing the alpine part of the Pole Paddle Pedal a few years ago by my daughter. It's a Chinese downhill. Anyway,we get in our assigned group and I started looking around. Everyone in MY group was about 30. So I asked the gal running the race if I was in the right group,she said yes your in the 28-35 yo group. My daughters age. So we put our skis at the start of the race and walked downhill a 100 feet to the start line. Ok not all these younger people can out run me. WRONG! Last one to the skis and had issues getting clamped in too. SO push off and figured what the hell it just for fun right. I look up and see a fat snowboard guy with his ass hanging out and that's all it took. It's race time. Long story short finished first. Course had to pass a few skiers between the gate and them. It's a race no mercy. The end. Oh I will never ever race a Chinese downhill again.

post #21 of 31

I vow to use these with extreme caution and consideration.

 

Thanks Phil!

 

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Hey!  I just realized that this is the first time I've gotten Head from a California resident.

post #22 of 31
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post

I vow to use these with extreme caution and consideration.

 

Thanks Phil!

 

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Hey!  I just realized that this is the first time I've gotten Head from a California resident.


It is a damn good thing I live in Nevada or I would be pissed. 

 

At a 215cm these will be a "nimble" DH for you. If you find that you ARE redlining and hitting the top end, we will upgrade you. 

post #23 of 31

Who was it that used to ski bumps on their DH race skis???

post #24 of 31

Doh!  Nevada!!

 

Above statement does not apply.

post #25 of 31
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

Who was it that used to ski bumps on their DH race skis???


Plake, Hattrup talked about it in Blizzard of Aaahhs....or was that a rhetorical question. 

post #26 of 31

I tried to enter with my Mazda Miata, but they said it was too underpowered at 200hp.

 

Wawawa!!

post #27 of 31
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Plake, Hattrup talked about it in Blizzard of Aaahhs....or was that a rhetorical question. 



We'll have to get MWP to find us a pic...I know I remember seeing someone ripping up some big soft western bumps on a pair of BIG old school DH boards in one of the mags.......

 

BF...can you try this out and get back to us???

post #28 of 31
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Originally Posted by nfp158 View Post

I tried to enter with my Mazda Miata, but they said it was too underpowered at 200hp.

 

Wawawa!!


Yeah but you can drive that Miata at 9/10ths and still be (somewhat) responsible in the road. Taking a 215 DH ski out at 9/10ths, they are pulling lift tickets. 

 

You have to bring the Miata up to the shop, i want to see it. A good reason for a road trip for ya. 

post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post




It is a damn good thing I live in Nevada or I would be pissed. 

Good to see you have realized there is a very important difference Phil! 

 

post #30 of 31

That is a pretty funny start up there.  The alpine leg is probably the least important time wise as a fast competitor will do it in say 2.30 and a really slow guy will do it in 5.00.  Easy to make that up in the other legs.  The bike and the boating legs seem to be the most important.  The PPP is a blast!
 

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Originally Posted by slider View Post

I got roped into racing the alpine part of the Pole Paddle Pedal a few years ago by my daughter. It's a Chinese downhill. Anyway,we get in our assigned group and I started looking around. Everyone in MY group was about 30. So I asked the gal running the race if I was in the right group,she said yes your in the 28-35 yo group. My daughters age. So we put our skis at the start of the race and walked downhill a 100 feet to the start line. Ok not all these younger people can out run me. WRONG! Last one to the skis and had issues getting clamped in too. SO push off and figured what the hell it just for fun right. I look up and see a fat snowboard guy with his ass hanging out and that's all it took. It's race time. Long story short finished first. Course had to pass a few skiers between the gate and them. It's a race no mercy. The end. Oh I will never ever race a Chinese downhill again.

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