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How about an "EpicSki" house in the Vail area?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

Cross posted in the General Skiing forum

 

This thread is to ascertain what interest there might be in having an "EpicSki" house in the Vail area, available for use on a nightly basis.

 

Some of you are familiar with the place I was renting last season in Wildridge, up the hill on the North side of Avon. It is a rather large, spacious place, furnished, with incredible views of Beaver Creek. It has 5 bedrooms, with 5 full baths (each room has a pvt full bath). it is about 10 minutes from Beaver Creek, and about 20 minutes from Vail (no bus service near the house).

 

The owners and I are discussing the rental for this coming season, and I am trying to determine if this is a viable proposition or not. I am considering renting the entire place (last year I only rented a room, with full use of the entire premises), having 1 other full time roomate, and having 3 rooms available for rent to visiting EpicSki members on a nightly basis.

 

2 of the rooms will have a double bed, 1 room has 2 singles. Rent would be charged by the room, per night, no added utilities, with full access of the common area (big screen TV, fully equipped huge kitchen, full sized washer/dryer, possible ski tuning area in heated garage, etc).

 

The cost per night will be approx $75 per room, regardless of the number of people (max 2 per room). This is only an estimate, as I'm still negotiating the actual rent amount with the owners. I am NOT looking for this to be a party pad, but rather a reasonably quiet rest spot after a day of serious skiing! This is not some deal to subsidize my rent, but rather to stay in a very nice place and have fun people stay as well.

 

If anyone thinks this is of interest, drop a note on this thread! No obligations, just whether there is enough interest for me not to get beat up for the huge rent the entire place will go for. 

post #2 of 23

I spent a few days there last Spring with VSP, and can tell you all it's a nice place with a great view of Beaver Creek and only about 20 minutes from Vail Village.  $75 a night would be a steal.

 

Ric, got any ideas on a weekly or monthly number ?

post #3 of 23

I think the problem that you face is that no matter where you go in ski country, most resorts are 80% empty 80% of the time. Or something close to that. So what you are proposing is a bit of a financial gamble with no great financial up side.

 

Why don't you try to get a room in the house for yourself, then make an offer to your landlord to try and find daily/weekly renters from Epic or elsewhere?  You could collect rent, do some house cleaning, get a % of daily/weekly rents, and be the house "ski guide" all with no financial commitment other than your rent.

post #4 of 23

For that price we would try to come out a second time (in addition to the 2 week timeshare we have.)  Particularly with buying the epic pass which is worth it for the 2 weeks alone, it makes a second trip to Vail affordable, just airfare and reasonable lodging.

 

Lodging is always the killer for us to think about a second trip.

 

Place and (estimated) price sounds fantastic imo.

post #5 of 23

Ric,

This sounds very interesting to me, and I'm sure to many here, but I would worry that you could lose out if you didn't really book-up as expected.  I assume you would have to book reservations well ahead through the year.  I think it sounds like a great opportunity for a lot of Bears.


Edited by RiDeC58 - 7/23/10 at 7:15pm
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post

I think the problem that you face is that no matter where you go in ski country, most resorts are 80% empty 80% of the time. Or something close to that. So what you are proposing is a bit of a financial gamble with no great financial up side.

 

Why don't you try to get a room in the house for yourself, then make an offer to your landlord to try and find daily/weekly renters from Epic or elsewhere?  You could collect rent, do some house cleaning, get a % of daily/weekly rents, and be the house "ski guide" all with no financial commitment other than your rent.


Have you ever tried to find a room in the Vail Valley during high season for $75 per night?  It's not easy.  And having it with a friendly smile and the history lessons VSP has to offer is a major bonus. 

 

If I recall we discussed this on a chair in Blue Sky Basin last season and my answer is still I'd definitely be interested. 
 

post #7 of 23

Just wondering--what's the best lift ticket deal that a person can usually score at Vail if not renting a room and getting a "Package" from the mountain?  I'm not talking about Season Pass deals etc.--just wondering what the best ticket price is for a few days trip and if there are discount programs available.  Anyone have a handle on discount deals?

post #8 of 23

RiDe in many years of going to Vail I've never found anything better then buying tickets online in advance as a Peaks member.  First few days are pretty pricy, then after I think 6 (?) they're about $45 each.  You build up points that eventually get you a free ticket.  Otherwise you have to ski enough days for a pass of some kind.

 

Others may have other info, but I've never seen it.  

post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post

RiDe in many years of going to Vail I've never found anything better then buying tickets online in advance as a Peaks member.  First few days are pretty pricy, then after I think 6 (?) they're about $45 each.  You build up points that eventually get you a free ticket.  Otherwise you have to ski enough days for a pass of some kind.

 

Others may have other info, but I've never seen it.  

I agree with you with just a few exceptions. I'd say about 30% of the time I've been able to get a better price by buying on the travel sites like Travelocity or Expedia under their "Activities" tab. It's basically the same ticket except you print out a voucher after purchase and present it at the ticket window. It still allows access to the other Vail resorts.

post #10 of 23

Thanks SMJ and Coach.

post #11 of 23
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No guarantees, but at some point next season I will be obtaining a number of lift tickets (some freebies, some discounted), as I did late this past season.

post #12 of 23
Thread Starter 

Originally posted by Roundturns in theGeneral Skiing Discussion forum-

 

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VSP, I think that's a pretty neat idea. Not holding you to the estimated $75 per night , but at that approx. price, you are not going to find a better value in the Vail Valley.  I'm pretty fortunate that when coming out I usually stay with my friend who puts me up in one of his units. He has two in Avon with a couple of people. Chapel Square and maybe it is Wildridge where he has invested in a second unit. He told me its behind Chapel Square Bob's Bar or something is on the bottom floor. He has his own. limited deed deal at Beaver Creek Lodge at Beaver Creek

 

But to have acess to a nice place in Avon allowing you to even eat in at that price is really special. I like Avon and there are a bunch of nice dining options at moderate prices. If I didn't drink at dinner you could eat for $15 a night at places like Outback etc .

 

If I was alone , I would certainly want to try and get a bed at your unit. Last year I stayed 5 nights at the Roost in April and it was still $100 a night in low season. I didn't rent a car and maybe I'm getting older but walking down to the restaurants and back up the hill at night is a PITA. There is a shuttle stop in the back of the place which is good. But being in Avon IMHO better.

 

The lack of bus service is not ideal but if there are two people you can pretty much split a car and be close to the CME R/T shuttle costs.

 

I think you're offering a really great accomodation offer at a price that can't be beat.

 

Any Parking Passes up at the Garage in Vail go with the room?  (Just Kidding) 

post #13 of 23

The Gathering in Summit County and this possible lodging bargain in Avon? It looks like CO is the place to ski this season.

post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by Laurel Hill Crazie View Post

The Gathering in Summit County and this possible lodging bargain in Avon? It looks like CO is the place to ski this season.


We already got haz  Epic passes.

post #15 of 23
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Uncle Louie View Post

I spent a few days there last Spring with VSP, and can tell you all it's a nice place with a great view of Beaver Creek and only about 20 minutes from Vail Village.  $75 a night would be a steal.

 

Ric, got any ideas on a weekly or monthly number ?


Still working out the numbers with the owner, UL, but as soon as I get things a bit more definite, I'll be letting you know!
 

post #16 of 23

Ric, I would be interested. I have a couple of friends who would be also. Keep us posted.

post #17 of 23

I do alot of ski trips alone so this would be a great option.  Are there any available options so that a car rental would not be necessary? CME can be epensive if only skiing for a day or two.

post #18 of 23

Your place is just beautiful VSP, and the deal is almost out of this world considering location and comfort. Nothing that I've ever seen compares as far as value is concerned near Vail.

 

If I head out your way again solo, I'll most probably join you. If I'm with Baz Jr., we'll probably stay at our usual hovel. (Father and son bonding thing.)

post #19 of 23
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Well, this is no longer an option... I got a phone call from the owners yesterday, and found out they have rented the whole place to a family on a yearly basis... with the first years rent up front.

 

Given the economy, I can surely understand their desire to stabilize their income on the townhouse. So I'm back to looking for a place to live this winter... I wonder if I can be as lucky twice in a row?

post #20 of 23

Falls in the too good to be true category I guess.

 

Good luck Ric!

post #21 of 23

Was looking forward to spending some time at the chateau with you mid-winter. Probably going to pick up a pair of Epic passes for me and Baz Jr. again this season, and will revert to our usual hovel. You are, VSP, of course welcome to hang with us. Might want to bring your own pillow.

 

Good luck with the home hunt.

post #22 of 23
Thread Starter 

Well... GUESS WHAT?

 

 

The owners of the place I was in last winter also own the unit immediately adjacent to it. They called me and asked if i would be interested in renting it, as their current tenant will be departing. So I have been crunching the numbers and wheeling and dealing, and lo and behold, I believe we have a deal.

 

This will not be exactly the deal I was discussing earlier in this thread, but as soon as I get on the ground in Vail (about 2 -3 weeks) I'll have some idea of what might be available. there will be at least 1 open bedroom, but will have to determine it's availability.

 

So... stay tuned... I think it's going to be good news!

post #23 of 23

Sounds good.

 

Booked myself into the Comfort inn at BC for 3 night just before xmas. Will switch in a heart beat if space is available.

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