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Rossi S7 and Armada JJ

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Was just about to pull the trigger on some 188 Rossi S7s when I came across the Armada JJs.

 

My summary on reading various threads is that you really can't go wrong with either and that the differences are perhaps a little nuanced in that the S7 is heavier and more of a "charger" vs the JJ which is lighter and more of a "jib" ski. I've read several folks saying that the JJ has a long assed tail???

 

I've away with the impression that the JJ *might* be a better all mountain ski (within the scope of it being a powder ski)

 

Do I have it about right, or am I in the weeds on my analysis? Would love to hear from folks who have skied both. My bet is that for my profile (below)  either would be just fine. Am now leaning towards the JJs as my impression is that they are lighter and quicker edge to edge??

 

Profile:

 

- Decent Advanced skier (not an expert)

- Like powder, trees, tightish lines, moguls (not a zipper line skier)

- Biggest jump I'll go off is about 10ft

- Spend 85% off piste. 15% on piste is mostly in the bumps

- Most of time is in Tahoe (Squaw) with a trip or three to Utah, CO, Whistler

- At Squaw I ski KT, Paulsons Gully, Headwall etc etc

- 6'0" 165lb

post #2 of 7

It sounds like you are looking for ON3P Billy Goats. Very similar demensions to the S7 but, with the improvements they made for next year, they are a better carver.  They are designed as a tree ski for powder and crud in tight spots, but can make big turns if you want.  Check out the ON3P threads on this forum for some links to the TGR reviews of the Billy Goats, S7s and JJs.  That should give you a good basis for comparison.  The BGs are on presale for $549 until the end of the month, if that matters.

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From my experience using both ski's I just really liked the S7 more.  I'm also a little biased as well because the sidewall comparisons-(JJ has composite capped topsheet while the S7 is the sandwich style).
 

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Cut and pasted from my post on the other recent thread comparing these two:

 

 

Both use the combination of rocker, camber, and reverse sidecut type shaped tip/tails. Main difference between the two is the tip to tail taper. The JJ as about 3mm, where the S7 has almost 20mm. Basically this means that the S7 shape is much more directional, and aimed more at skiing forwards. The mount is also further back than the JJ, so again, more geared to skiing forwards. The JJ's shape is designed better for skiing both forwards and switch. It's a bit stiffer, so is probably better in chopped up snow. Both are great skis, but if you don't ski switch, I think the S7 would probably suit you better, the JJ is more hooky in heavy snow due to the more symmetrical shape. If I was to buy one of these it would be the S7.

 

In my mind they are two slightly different ways of creating a ski for a similar purpose. Regardless, they are both super slashy, fun skis, and you would be happy on either.

 

ON3P Billy goat is better than both. it's shape is more similar to the S7, but its stiffer, better made, and lighter ect. BG is pretty close in weight to JJ, maybe a smidge heavier, but it was way more burly and durable. Pre sale ends on 31st for ON3P- get them while they are cheap because they are worth twice the price of the JJ or the S7 in all honesty.

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Thanks guys. Retard that I am, I never thought to search for "S7 vs JJ". 

post #6 of 7

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104129 

 

If you go to this TGR thread and keep scrolling down, you'll see multiple skier reviews on all three skis.

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Cut and pasted from my post on the other recent thread comparing these two:

 

 

Both use the combination of rocker, camber, and reverse sidecut type shaped tip/tails. Main difference between the two is the tip to tail taper. The JJ as about 3mm, where the S7 has almost 20mm. Basically this means that the S7 shape is much more directional, and aimed more at skiing forwards. The mount is also further back than the JJ, so again, more geared to skiing forwards. The JJ's shape is designed better for skiing both forwards and switch. It's a bit stiffer, so is probably better in chopped up snow. Both are great skis, but if you don't ski switch, I think the S7 would probably suit you better, the JJ is more hooky in heavy snow due to the more symmetrical shape. If I was to buy one of these it would be the S7.

 

In my mind they are two slightly different ways of creating a ski for a similar purpose. Regardless, they are both super slashy, fun skis, and you would be happy on either.

 

ON3P Billy goat is better than both. it's shape is more similar to the S7, but its stiffer, better made, and lighter ect. BG is pretty close in weight to JJ, maybe a smidge heavier, but it was way more burly and durable. Pre sale ends on 31st for ON3P- get them while they are cheap because they are worth twice the price of the JJ or the S7 in all honesty.

 

After speaking to Scott over at ON3P, I just returned my newly purchased S7s and ordered a pair of the BGs
 

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