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Micro 4:3 instead of DSLR or Point & Shoot?

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Comprex posted this question in this thread/Post 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/93113/carrying-your-dslr-on-the-slopes-how-do-you-do-it/30#post_1233829

But I honestly had no idea what he was talking about.

Can someone enlighten me?

 

post #2 of 9

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Micro 4/3 is a 'standard' in the camera world that was started a few years ago (2008) by Panasonic and Olympus. It was developed to provide a standard sensor size (smaller, more compact than APS-C but bigger than Point-n-Shoot) and lens mount... well, actually 4:3's came first, then micro 4:3 was developed by ditching the mirror and pentaprism, allowing for a much more compact body.

 

Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Four_Thirds_system

 

The Olympus EP-1 and the Panasonic GF1 are the popular choices.

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I have a Lumix GH1( hacked firmware version for better MB/s video shooting) and its great for video. However, I still prefer my Nikon for taking stills. The mirrorless cameras have a video lcd viewfinder in addition to the larger lcd on the back. By appearances, it looks like an slr view finder, but it's like looking through a video camera. This is not as good (IMO) as the typical slr as there is lag when you take a burst of 3-4 shots at once.

I could go into all the jargon re: the Canon's aliasing etc vs the GH1 in terms of video, but that is out there on the innerwebs if you look for it. I do love shooting with the GH1 for video more than my Sony HDV camera (prosumer). The interchangeability of lenses is a huge plus. I have a nikon lens adapter, so I can put very fast lenses on it and a pl mount adapter for 35 mm motion picture lenses.

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sooneron,

 

I was thinking of picking up an EVIL for the same reason Trekchick mentions.  Namely, they are light weight,  they have interchangable lenses, and unlike compact cameras the dynamic range is close to any DSLR (important in the snow).  In your opinion, how good is the video, how hard is it to look at the screen in sun, how much MP is necessary in the 4:3 format, etc.?  I am thinking of using an EVIL mostly for alpine and nordic skiing (for the light weight), shooting only in RAW.
 

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I have a Lumix GH1( hacked firmware version for better MB/s video shooting) and its great for video. However, I still prefer my Nikon for taking stills. The mirrorless cameras have a video lcd viewfinder in addition to the larger lcd on the back. By appearances, it looks like an slr view finder, but it's like looking through a video camera. This is not as good (IMO) as the typical slr as there is lag when you take a burst of 3-4 shots at once.

I could go into all the jargon re: the Canon's aliasing etc vs the GH1 in terms of video, but that is out there on the innerwebs if you look for it. I do love shooting with the GH1 for video more than my Sony HDV camera (prosumer). The interchangeability of lenses is a huge plus. I have a nikon lens adapter, so I can put very fast lenses on it and a pl mount adapter for 35 mm motion picture lenses.

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sooneron,

 

I was thinking of picking up an EVIL for the same reason Trekchick mentions.  Namely, they are light weight,  they have interchangable lenses, and unlike compact cameras the dynamic range is close to any DSLR (important in the snow).  In your opinion, how good is the video, how hard is it to look at the screen in sun, how much MP is necessary in the 4:3 format, etc.?  I am thinking of using an EVIL mostly for alpine and nordic skiing (for the light weight), shooting only in RAW.
 


 


I love my GH1. Don't get me wrong, it's a great camera. I just love the nikon a little bit more FOR STILLS. The Gh1's size is great- smaller than most nikons or canons. It does take great shots-

 

P1030160.jpg

 

The video quality before the video hack was remarkable- afterwards, its even better -

I took this before hack with the nikon 105mm lens-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9ibuv1Xte8

 

I am in the film/video world, so I do know what I am talking about - not a wedding shooter either-I've produced more than 100 regional/national commercials and worked on countless other productions. A DP that I was working with 2 weeks ago was looking at my footage and remarked upon how good the GH1 latitude was. So take that for what it's worth.

The screen will be an issue in the snow, but you can always use the small view finder on the rear/top of the camera. I have the Pana kit lens 14-140, which is quite nice, the f1.4 20 mm pancake which is really cool for fast needs and two old nikon manual lenses that I picked up for less than $300 each.

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sooneron,

 

Wow, and I'm not just referring to the good looking baby!  I'm now seriously  thinking of a set-up similar to yours.  A DSLR still has it's place (I'm a PENTAX guy because of the weather proofing), but I'd rather go light if at all possible.  Thanks...

 

 

 

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I love my GH1. Don't get me wrong, it's a great camera. I just love the nikon a little bit more FOR STILLS. The Gh1's size is great- smaller than most nikons or canons. It does take great shots-

 

P1030160.jpg

 

The video quality before the video hack was remarkable- afterwards, its even better -

I took this before hack with the nikon 105mm lens-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9ibuv1Xte8

 

I am in the film/video world, so I do know what I am talking about - not a wedding shooter either-I've produced more than 100 regional/national commercials and worked on countless other productions. A DP that I was working with 2 weeks ago was looking at my footage and remarked upon how good the GH1 latitude was. So take that for what it's worth.

The screen will be an issue in the snow, but you can always use the small view finder on the rear/top of the camera. I have the Pana kit lens 14-140, which is quite nice, the f1.4 20 mm pancake which is really cool for fast needs and two old nikon manual lenses that I picked up for less than $300 each.

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Another of the kids-

P1030152.jpg

 

Yeah, the boy is a little oof, but I was shooting at f2.5.

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Here is a screen grab from a music video that I shot on Sunday-

 

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There's very little aliasing and almost NO artifact from pixelation. And that's a Lotta Latitude!

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sooneron,

 

Wow, and I'm not just referring to the good looking baby!  I'm now seriously  thinking of a set-up similar to yours.  A DSLR still has it's place (I'm a PENTAX guy because of the weather proofing), but I'd rather go light if at all possible.  Thanks...

 

 

 


 


You can probably get a GH1 for a little bit less now. If you want one that IS Hackable, it will probably cost you original MSRP- about $1400. BUT, that comes with the kit lens which doesn't suck.

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