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post #1 of 12
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Ok ... its pushing 100 with the humidity and I haven't been on skis for what seems like an eternity but its time to start thinking about the 2010-11 season.

 

So I've been starting to look for the 2010-11 gear guides (maybe there just a mirage in this heat), but I've been wondering what will be the trend for 2010-11?

 

Can eastern skis continue to get fatter? 

 

Which brands are on an upswing and who will fall from grace?  Will this year be the resurgance of Rossi? 

 

PS - is anyone sitting around with their boots on waiting for a freak snow storm?

post #2 of 12

Here is a thread that pretty much answers your questions.. http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/94259/10-11-predictions-winners-losers

post #3 of 12

I think K2 will fall from grace.  Rocker on everything?  Come on now guys...

post #4 of 12

They , K2, sure have pushed the envelope. obSETHeds and Bents are all I ride now, but I'm not sure why you would take a great ski like the obSETHed and do a total revamp?

 

Head Mojo 94 187s w/ RF 14s for sale!!!

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Originally Posted by snokat View Post

They , K2, sure have pushed the envelope. obSETHeds and Bents are all I ride now, but I'm not sure why you would take a great ski like the obSETHed and do a total revamp?

 

Head Mojo 94 187s w/ RF 14s for sale!!!


In K2's defense, they have changed and revamped the ObSethed with every generation. IIRC, it started at 98mm, then went 105mm then 105mm w/ rocker and now again. I don't have the new number in front of me. 

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Originally Posted by SkiNut View Post


 

Can eastern skis continue to get fatter? 

 

 

Two questions.......................

 

What constitues an 'Eastern' ski for you?

 

Fatter than...................what?

 

SJ

post #7 of 12

"Can eastern skis continue to get fatter?"

 

Only if people continue to buy them. 

post #8 of 12

Will eastern skis get fatter? All skis will get fatter. Check out the number of respected skiers here who make a 78-85 mm their primary ski now. Is this a good thing? Entirely different question. My theory is that < 30 are going fatter because 1) it's cool and 2) they don't much care about/know how to carve groomers anyway, while > 30 are going fatter because 1) it makes crud and rough snow easier in the pm on aging bodies and 2) you don't have to react as fast to edge changes, which is good, because you can't react as fast, period. Which is also why you don't race slalom anymore. Truth hurts, but all this stuff about midfats being as good as race carvers is just wishful thinking. 

post #9 of 12

Sorry, haven't skied the east since '04, and so I sold my Xscreams. Can't help with "what constitutes a fat eastern ski".

I could offer that a nice old pair of Snow Rangers from '95 would still work, if you are interested. They have RF plates on them.

50% LOL

post #10 of 12

I just picked up last years AC30's. 

 

Do they constitute a fat Eastern skI?

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Originally Posted by kermit88 View Post

I just picked up last years AC30's. 

 

Do they constitute a fat Eastern skI?


Eastern?.....sure.

 

Fat?...........maybe.

 

The reason that asked the question is that there are 85-90mm wide skis that are more hard snow (east) oriented than soft snow (west). What constitutes a fat ski is completely dependant upon individual perspective.

 

SJ

post #12 of 12

Other than my race skis, My go to ski last two seasons was the Stockli Scot Schmidt. It has an 89mm waist and it is definitely more hard snow oriented. I love skiing Hunter mountain with it. I also ski weekdays only so I have the place to myself and can go fast without problems. I couldn't imagine skiing them on weekends. I can't see anything over 90mm being a realistic east coast ski. But we do have the heavy stuff and a good ski in that range is gold in those conditions.

 

The problems with skis like that is they don't like to go slow and will tire you out if you ski them slow or try and make tighter turns than they are designed for. I skied these on steep icy runs at whiteface and it was not the best use. But, they do bust crud like no other. (There are more user friendly skis hard snow oriented skis in the 85-90mm range that can be skied easier)

 

With all that said, I guess it comes down to the quote on one members signature (Can't remember who). It said some like "All Mountain - a ski that does everything equally poorly."

 

The problem with todays skis is that if you don't want an all mountain you will have to resort to several pairs of skis for different purposes or skis that serve your main purpose and sacrifice performance in other areas.

 

Even with several pairs of skis you can encounter different terrain on one run. Especially when you ski the larger mountains. I was at Whiteface last year and it was icy at the top and turned to heavy crud/chop about half way down. Reminds me of the cartoon with the guys carry a literal quiver on their backs. If I skied my GS skis I would would about bending them in the choppier (and bumpier) stuff and the schmidts aren't meant for the steep ice.

I think that is one reason why these 75-85mm midfats are so popular. The do kind of do it all.

 

I think the optimal scenario for a serious east coast skier that doesn't want several pairs of skis and doesn't want 1 pair of all mountain is to just go with 1 good carver and 1 good midfat (but more on the fatter side). Maybe a 70mm ish carver and a 85-90mm crud/chop/mashed potatoes snow......and rent out west for powder skiing!

 

The big fatties on the east coast is just a cool thing with the kids. There are a few days when they will work, but I still laugh when I see a 14 year old skiing a 130mm ski on a groomer......Get a snowboard!


Edited by johnnysdg - 7/17/10 at 8:04am
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