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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I told my son to quit growing..at least until Fall.  He didnt listen so now he needs new boots.


He is 10... 4' 7"...approx. 100#...abit on the stocky side.  Next winter will be his second year racing...being more aggressive is one of the things we are working on.  Right now he skiing 3-4 times a week with his club up at Timberline.  Hopefully we will be skiing through the second week in August. One of the benefits of living 45 minutes from Mt Hood.


He is currently on a pair of Atomic sl 12 130's skis.  Hot waxed everytime he goes up.


I'm looking at the Atomic RJ Pro...60 flex...or the RJ Pro RX..  Right now he is in a pair of Nordica Superchargers.  Planning to stop by the Atomic shop up at Govy this weekend.  I was told they have some there.


Any other boot suggestions?  Things I should keep in mind??  I do know how to shell fit him plus he will be spending some quality time at the boot fitter.


Thanks ahead of time




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Edited by Bill_in_PDX - 7/13/10 at 8:03am
post #2 of 13

I feel for you.  It's so hard to keep them in boots that fit at that age.  It will probably get worse.  I think at 13, I could actually watch them grow.  Does his race club have any swaps?


post #3 of 13

When you look at the entire season of racing, the cost involved with boots or even gear in general is fairly minimal. I'd suggest that you resist any temptation to buy them with "growing room" and get boots that fit. (meaning approx 3/4" of shell space at the most) Boots are too important for both performance and also safety that the cost (roughly $150) for boots at that level is really far outweighed by the benefits in the grand scheme. He'll ski better and progress faster if they fit. If he outgrows them, so be it.


BTW....don't worry about the boots being Atomic. Nothing wrong with that choice, but Langes, Nordicas, Tecnicas can all work just fine.



post #4 of 13
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Yes they need to fit.   I remember having bad boots when I was a kid.  But those laced up and were made of leather.


Brand isnt a concern. Fit is.  If they fit right, he will perform better.  One thing I've noticed this summer is there alot of junior racers wearing Lange boots.  There is a reason for that. 


I'm a Nordica guy.  Why?  Because they fit my feet well.  My search last night came up with the Atomics and I think I can have him try them on at the mountain this weekend.  If not, I may be hard pressed to find a pair this time of year locally.



post #5 of 13

BTW.....I suspect that at 100# he could easily be in a 70-80 flex boot. Possibly even a 90.



post #6 of 13

Many race programs have "fit" days in the fall. This is an opportunity for young athletes to be fit by industry reps. Fit, not brand, is key. Frequently, there are discounts for product purchased during "fit" day. Check with your local club and wait until Fall.

post #7 of 13
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His club doesnt have a fit day and he really needs the boots now to finish up the summer.  He still has 20 or so training days left before the glacier is toast.



post #8 of 13

Here is link for you... Read the article/it's very short/ and then watch all the videos of that girl - Katia/ one of them is after switching from junior boots, to race boots... Even though, she is a little older I think you'll get the idea...,http://www.youcanski.com/en/coaching/jr_technique.htm 


Also Atomic race boots are very nice fit/in my opinion/ and I have very wide105mm foot with high arch and high instep... 90-100 flex should be adequate for your son... If you want Atomic boots,this guy has this year and last year models at very competitive price+ fast shipping... CAll him..........



There is phone # there...... GL..

post #9 of 13

I'll let the bootfitters steer you towards a particular brand that fits your son's foot & leg.


The most important thing I would be looking for as a coach of kids that age & size is a boot that flexes easily.   To be clear, the hinge has to work, it's not enough to simply be able to push forward and bend the shell out of shape.


If you pick a boot with a bolt at the back that holds the upper cuff to the lower shell, that bolt should come out.  (Save it, your boy's coach will tell you if/when it's time to  put it back.) 


The other characteristic of the hinge that sometimes gets forgotten is the alignment of the inner and outer hinge bolts.  There are differences between brands, and if the hinge doesn't match up with your son's skeletal alignment, he won't be pressuring effectively.

post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

After playing with my sons Nordica boots, I realized his hinges weren't working right.  They were bashed and smashed...probably from hitting gates.  They were toast.  So I picked him up a nearly new pair of Head Raptor 70's from one of the demo shops up at Govy for $75 bucks.  70 flex...and took out the rivet out of the back.  He flexs alot better in it...but his coach's would like to have him have even more flex.  Rossi makes a 50 and 60 flex in their radical line that I'm goign to take a look at in the fall.

post #11 of 13

I'm no boot fitter, nor am I a Jr race coach,  but IMHO I found wit that lightweight, comfort and a softer flex often times works better for many kids as opposed to a very stiff Jr race boot.  You'll still want to get a good quality performance boot.  All too often, I see kids, especially around your kids age (10 yr old) with overly stiff race boots, skidding around the gates, essentially putting the breaks on every time they round a gate.  Granted, there's more than just boot stiffness going on, but it appears to me that softer flex allows them to finesse  their turns a little better, especially as they get more tired after during a day of skiing.  You, as well as your kids coaches, know your kid better than I  - but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. 


On the positive side - now is a good time to buy gear at some really great prices !


post #12 of 13

I see MOST people in boots too big and too stiff.  The good news is boots (for anyone) can be made softer.  


Boots that are too big however are useless...

post #13 of 13

A note about sizing for 10-year olds:  at this age, feet can grow quite a bit in a few months. 


The boots that fit perfectly in September might be too small by the time the ski season starts in December.  And even the boots that fit just right at the start of the season might be too small by late February.


This is why people will often buy big in the hopes that their child will grow into the new boots.  The big risk of course, as mtlion states so succinctly above, is that boots that are too big are useless.  Too small is just as useless, if your child outgrows the boot before ski season even begins. 


You can help manage this risk by measuring your child's feet regularly, and regularly means monthly from about now to the end of March.  Measure length and width of both feet.  Write the dates & measurements down and bring them with you when you go boot shopping.  The growth trend information you will have gathered will help you make a better choice on the appropriate size.  If you've got a clear trend for rapid short term growth, this is guiding you towards a looser, oversized fit that will be where you want it when skiing starts.  If growth seems pretty stable, then you can fit more to the target performance level.


The risk of sizing wrong is increased the earlier you start looking for boots.  There might be

some great summer deals available, but recognize that a lot can change in six months.


And then the other side of the fitting process is that if you leave it too close to the start of skiing, then there might not be stock available. 


If you at least have some growth measurements, you'll be making an informed decision, not just a hopeful guess.  While you're at it, start measuring height regularly as well.  Information on your child's PHV (peak height velocity) will be useful to coaches in a few years.

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