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post #31 of 180
7/6/10 at 10:02am
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I wouldn't call the GC race over for Lance at this point.  It's early, and this stage was an odd duck in terms of its challenge in what is usually a first week for the sprinters.  Yes, he lost time and has his work cut out for him.  Then again, so do Contador, Basso, Wiggins, Gesink and Menchov. 

 

Schleck is vulnerable in the mountains without his brother there to shepherd and protect him (his brother is the only reason he was competitive with Contador last year, in my eyes - they're a potent 1-2 punch).  Cancellara isn't strong when the hills get ultra-steep and ultra-frequent, which leaves Jens Voigt and... well, that's about it. 

 

Evans is looking great right now, but his BMC team is an unknown factor when the roads slope upward.  Hincapie is a single-day rider on the downslope of his career, so his help is questionable.

 

Contador has looked mortal, of late, and has a so-so support squad, including a fellow GC contender who feels like the team is his (Vinokourov). 

 

Armstrong had bad fortune with punctures, but Popo helped him well through the remaining pavé sections.  He has some great support riders in the form of Brajkovic, Klöden, Leipheimer, Horner and others, though most of them are older and looking the part, these days.  But Lance knows the strategy better than almost everybody else in the peloton, so don't count him out until after we see some real mountain action. 

 

The basic truth is that anybody within 3-4 minutes who is a GC contender can easily make that up in the mountains.

 

 

I don't see any way that Lance puts time on AC.  He will easily put 1-2 minutes into AS in the final TT so he's not the worry.  I don't consider Evans a threat for the GC at all...when the roads go up he will get dropped like a bad habit.  This race is basically down to AS, AC and Lance barring more disasters.  Maybe Wiggo can also stick his head in there but I just don't see where Lance can take back time on AC.  All AC has to do now is stay with Lance in the hills (which he should do) and not lose 50 seconds to him in the final TT.    I think Lance can climb with AC and AS but I don't think he can shed them on the climbs.  Guess we will see.....
 

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post #32 of 180
7/6/10 at 10:33am
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I know nothing and was just super lucky to pick 2 of the front 7 right?

 


 

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Cancellara can ride cobbles, and is a beast, and that Thor Hushovd would be there at the line. Cervelo and Saxo Bank put in the work for this to happen. Cancellara's ride may have put him in yellow, but it was for Andy Schleck. Again. You're not about the big picture.

 

And as someone who was racing mountain bikes before you took your training wheels off, give it a rest on the whole MTB Vs. Roadies thing. It's tired.

 

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post #33 of 180
7/6/10 at 10:35am
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I know nothing and was just super lucky to pick 2 of the front 7 right?

 


 


Heh.   That's the easy picks.   

 

No one yet has had the huevos to pick Stage 9 from what they see today.

 

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post #34 of 180
7/6/10 at 10:40am

last day to sign up for the fantasy league

 

http://fantasy.versus.com/cycling/index.asp

 

Id say if you guys are so knowlegdable beat me at it.

 

 

 

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post #35 of 180
7/6/10 at 10:41am
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Cancellara can ride cobbles, and is a beast, and that Thor Hushovd would be there at the line. Cervelo and Saxo Bank put in the work for this to happen. Cancellara's ride may have put him in yellow, but it was for Andy Schleck. Again. You're not about the big picture.

 

And as someone who was racing mountain bikes before you took your training wheels off, give it a rest on the whole MTB Vs. Roadies thing. It's tired.

 

 

as long as its pisses someone off its never tired. you think I dont know that Fabian did that for andy? c'mon

 

tomorrow an easier one to pick
 

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post #36 of 180
7/6/10 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

as long as its pisses someone off its never tired.
 

 

"Provocative" done well is more than just a windup.  

 

It makes the responder question their own assumptions and look to corroborate their own views first.
 

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post #37 of 180
7/7/10 at 12:55am

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Originally Posted by songfta View Post

Cancellara isn't strong when the hills get ultra-steep and ultra-frequent, which leaves Jens Voigt and... well, that's about it. 

 

Contador has looked mortal, of late, and has a so-so support squad, including a fellow GC contender who feels like the team is his (Vinokourov).


Not entirely true. Saxo has quite few extremely good climbers in team. Fuglsang and both Sorensen's are great climbers, so they can be there and help. They are far from GC contenders, but they can do great share of work in mountains. And with Cancellara alone, they have enough for flat stages. But I still think Schlecks TT capabilities are far to low, to be considered on pair with Contador. He's not three times better in mountains, so I doubt he can make up 2 or 3 minutes compared to rest.

Based on this what I heard, Contador had material problems on last few km. Spoke on back wheel was gone, and wheel was going worse and worse, but they calculated it would take too much time to change it. Vino was working really good all the way, so even if in last 500m looked like he doesn't care, he did great job. He was pulling alone for last 5 or 6km at least, so you can't really say he didn't do his share of work. And Contador, being first time on cobbles, he did quite good job.

Personally I would say biggest disappointment yesterday was Armstrong. He is much better rider for cobbles then Contador or Schleck, and he has much more experiences with cobbles then Contador, yet he failed big time. Sure he had puncture or two, but getting 2 minutes is too much, especially since he was nowhere near already before puncture happened.

But nevertheless it's early in race. Lot of things can happen, but still, when riders are so close, it's hard to get back minute or two.

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post #38 of 180
7/7/10 at 7:36am

TdF muse for 7/7:

 

I’m not shorting Cadel this year as current WC champ winning in Fleche Wallonne along with his effort at the L-B-L.  I sure as hell did not expect to see Evans up his ante in the cobbles…that shows some moxie he normally spins short of.  And on a US team co-owned by 7-Eleven founder Ochowitz; Cadel also has the tall US godfather of 14 tours and a pretty good clothing line pulling him up and over.

 

Astana works the Col de la Madeleine so well protecting AC that Vino is allowed to fly down and take stage 9.

 

I don’t see AS getting it done without his brother Frank in the race.

 

Thor beats Cav for tour green.

 

LA shows his age but because of the Shack’s team strength he takes third at Champs-Elysees.

 

AC takes it again...and will do so in 2011.

 

France becomes the world’s economic leader due to the broadcast and buys Texas.

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post #39 of 180
7/7/10 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post

TdF muse for 7/7:

 


 

AC takes it again...and will do so in 2011.

 

France becomes the world’s economic leader due to the broadcast and buys Texas.

Don't go too far out on that limb.........

 

and

 

 

 


 

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post #40 of 180
7/7/10 at 3:22pm
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TdF muse for 7/7:

 

I’m not shorting Cadel this year ..........



Would have to agree (without being jingoistic); remember he has been runner-up in 2007 and 2008 without a team that supported him 100% in the GC (Silence-Lotto).

 

After the first 3 stages, last night was  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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post #41 of 180
7/7/10 at 4:08pm

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Don't go too far out on that limb.........

 

and

 

  

Yeah…boy was I really reaching on that one [and no, not France buying Texas].  But I will say [mimicking the popular now full of crap sentiment] that I thought for sure Alberto would be sprung up to the moon on that Specialized Tarmac rumbling over those cobbles.  Not being a classics guy I was sure he’d be bounced to bits limb by limb. Damn, you need girth and power turning those 53’s built like Cancellara or Boonen…for even short sections.  Right?!...

 

BS!  A prototypical lithe climbing Spaniard fly’s over the pave for his first time in competition…when it must count…and had it not for a busted tyre & spoke he’d have come close to winning that miniaturized Paris-Roubaix look alike stage.  He’ll be shooting off his six gun hand salute all over this tour.  He’s as good as it gets.

 

I still hope for a good Cadel and Big George Hincapie combo ride to surprise.  I think Evans can finally ratchet back his post ride angst and cool his fisticuffs while riding and finally put all that energy towards just moving the bike forward in a good spot this year.



 

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post #42 of 180
7/7/10 at 9:34pm



 

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Heh.   That's the easy picks.   

 

No one yet has had the huevos to pick Stage 9 from what they see today.

 
 

 

Stage 9 won't decide anything.  The leaders will dump the pretenders, and the sprinters will lose 25 minutes, but there are 32 km between the top of the Madeline and the finish.  It is a smooth descent, not too technical.  Many riders will regroup on the way down.  The race will be decided in the Pyrenees, not the Alps.

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post #43 of 180
7/8/10 at 1:04am


 

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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post

 

Stage 9 won't decide anything.  The leaders will dump the pretenders, and the sprinters will lose 25 minutes, but there are 32 km between the top of the Madeline and the finish.  It is a smooth descent, not too technical.  Many riders will regroup on the way down.  The race will be decided in the Pyrenees, not the Alps.
 

 

All this is true. And I am well aware of it.    

 

But it doesn't answer the question: who do you have podium on that stage and what will be the GC order on that day?

 

We can talk about stages 14-16 a week from now.
 

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post #44 of 180
7/8/10 at 6:59am

The podium for a stage is just the winner, and that could be one of 25 riders.  Give us your pick and we'll see how it pans out. Cattle Evens could well have yellow if all the GC riders are together.

 

Far more importantly, what are you going to eat and drink that day?  Here's my menu:

 

 

Boef du Jour
 
How One cooks a steak on Le Barbeque
 
We love the Town of St Jean de Maurienne.  We first stayed there in 1999 when the tour passed through twice. St Jean is a perfect base from which to explore many of the classic Cols of the Tour.  Our hotel gave us a little booklet they had put together, with maps and profiles for all the famous passes including the Madeline, Glandon, Croix de Fer Telegraph, and Galibier.  
 
We had some great food there, but oddly the meal I remember most was a simple steak frites I packed away before heading out to tackle the Telegraph and Galibier. 
 
In an ironic turn around, a case can be made for going to France for good beef, particularly if it is prepared with American culinary skill and served with an American wine. I will explain this apparent heresy as I go.
 
 Since madcow disease threatened to makes ones brain au compote, the French have become fanatical about knowing just where their beef comes from.  Good restaurants will list the exact farm on which your beef was raised.  Now that the family name is at stake, they are actually raising cows for meat rather than just serving up some ancient dairy cow.  The resultant product is a wonderful grass fed beef, which may not be as tender as the fat and hormone packed American product, but is frequently much more flavorful.
 
Moving on to the next piece of sacrilege, how to cook it.  We saw a show on French TV on the latest fad in French cooking---charcoal grilling.  It profiled a French chef who travels from town to town, teaching the French how to cook over an American Weber grill.  They even profiled the Weber Corporation, whose kettle grills sell for beaucoup Euros over there.
 
Finally, the wine.  I like to have a nice Bordeaux with a steak.  The French Bordeaux seem to get more expensive and mediocre every year.  Fortunately, Washington State is cranking out better and better Bordeaux blends.  From a $9 Columbia Crest, to the $50 Walla Walla boutique wines, you can’t go wrong.  Save your French wine budget for Chateau Neuf de Pape, real Champagne, and Provence Rose.
 
Charcoal Grilled Steak-Demi Fume, chez Doug
 
One first must find la belle vache, learn about its hometown, be sure it was eleveged, without prion laced feed.  Here we’ll look for the local beef which was fed Deschues brewery beer mash.
 
Do not even think of cooking such a tranche over Gaz.  On must only use the vrai Charbon de bois. 
 
In addition the the certain je ne se croix  one derives from real charcoal, we will add some wood for a smokey flavor.  Throw a handful of chipped bois de pomme or chene into water to soak.
 
Start with a small pile of briquettes.  Ignite with a pure and volatile fluid, such a alcohol or Coleman fuel.  Charcoal lighters are denatured to prevent imbeciles from blowing the selves up, but leave residue.  Stand back and throw matches Manifique!
When the charcoal is covered with ash, dump the woodchips on, place the boef around the edge and cover, with the vents 2/3 closed.
 
Le Steak is pret, when it no longer jiggles when poked.  It should still be soft.  If it becomes firm and curls, you have a catastrophe, and should feed it to le chien.
 
Serve with an incredibly artful salad arrangement and a fine Washington State Cabernet blend.  Don’t rule out the screw caps or plastic corks.
 
Oh yes, and French fries.  I won’t tell the French how to do those.
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post #45 of 180
7/8/10 at 8:35am
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post

The podium for a stage is just the winner, and that could be one of 25 riders.  Give us your pick and we'll see how it pans out. Cattle Evens could well have yellow if all the GC riders are together.

 

Far more importantly, what are you going to eat and drink that day?  Here's my menu:

 

 

Boef du Jour
 
How One cooks a steak on Le Barbeque
 
We love the Town of St Jean de Maurienne.  We first stayed there in 1999 when the tour passed through twice. St Jean is a perfect base from which to explore many of the classic Cols of the Tour.  Our hotel gave us a little booklet they had put together, with maps and profiles for all the famous passes including the Madeline, Glandon, Croix de Fer Telegraph, and Galibier.  
 
We had some great food there, but oddly the meal I remember most was a simple steak frites I packed away before heading out to tackle the Telegraph and Galibier. 
 
In an ironic turn around, a case can be made for going to France for good beef, particularly if it is prepared with American culinary skill and served with an American wine. I will explain this apparent heresy as I go.
 
 Since madcow disease threatened to makes ones brain au compote, the French have become fanatical about knowing just where their beef comes from.  Good restaurants will list the exact farm on which your beef was raised.  Now that the family name is at stake, they are actually raising cows for meat rather than just serving up some ancient dairy cow.  The resultant product is a wonderful grass fed beef, which may not be as tender as the fat and hormone packed American product, but is frequently much more flavorful.
 
Moving on to the next piece of sacrilege, how to cook it.  We saw a show on French TV on the latest fad in French cooking---charcoal grilling.  It profiled a French chef who travels from town to town, teaching the French how to cook over an American Weber grill.  They even profiled the Weber Corporation, whose kettle grills sell for beaucoup Euros over there.
 
Finally, the wine.  I like to have a nice Bordeaux with a steak.  The French Bordeaux seem to get more expensive and mediocre every year.  Fortunately, Washington State is cranking out better and better Bordeaux blends.  From a $9 Columbia Crest, to the $50 Walla Walla boutique wines, you can’t go wrong.  Save your French wine budget for Chateau Neuf de Pape, real Champagne, and Provence Rose.
 
Charcoal Grilled Steak-Demi Fume, chez Doug
 
One first must find la belle vache, learn about its hometown, be sure it was eleveged, without prion laced feed.  Here we’ll look for the local beef which was fed Deschues brewery beer mash.
 
Do not even think of cooking such a tranche over Gaz.  On must only use the vrai Charbon de bois. 
 
In addition the the certain je ne se croix  one derives from real charcoal, we will add some wood for a smokey flavor.  Throw a handful of chipped bois de pomme or chene into water to soak.
 
Start with a small pile of briquettes.  Ignite with a pure and volatile fluid, such a alcohol or Coleman fuel.  Charcoal lighters are denatured to prevent imbeciles from blowing the selves up, but leave residue.  Stand back and throw matches Manifique!
When the charcoal is covered with ash, dump the woodchips on, place the boef around the edge and cover, with the vents 2/3 closed.
 
Le Steak is pret, when it no longer jiggles when poked.  It should still be soft.  If it becomes firm and curls, you have a catastrophe, and should feed it to le chien.
 
Serve with an incredibly artful salad arrangement and a fine Washington State Cabernet blend.  Don’t rule out the screw caps or plastic corks.
 
Oh yes, and French fries.  I won’t tell the French how to do those.


Bravissimo!!! 

 

You've inspired me to do the same but Weber's suck...the big green egg is way to go

 

Got recommendation for a ~$20 of Wash State Cab blend??? 

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post #46 of 180
7/8/10 at 8:42am

Gad! Cavendish is not only a trash talker, he's a cry baby.  I might puke.

 

 

Oh--- good Washinton "Bordeaux....look for Desert Wind's  Ruah or Pendulum of Walla Walla's Red Blend

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post #47 of 180
7/8/10 at 8:50am
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post

Gad! Cavendish is not only a trash talker, he's a cry baby.  I might puke.

 

 

Oh--- good Washinton "Bordeaux....look for Desert Wind's  Ruah or Pendulum of Walla Walla's Red Blend


I'm an official Mark Cavendish hater. The fact that he won today pretty much soured the rest of my day.

 

I was predicting that if he didn't win one before the mountains that he would abandon at some point.

 

I'm actually still hoping for that. I do know that he won't be putting that green jersey on in this tour unless a miracle happens. he's just not complete enough to make up those points.
 

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post #48 of 180
7/8/10 at 9:21am



 

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I do know that he won't be putting that green jersey on in this tour unless a miracle happens. he's just not complete enough to make up those points.
 



Plus he just plain quit the other day.  He says he deserved the green jersey last year, and wants to win it this year, but when Petachi got the jump on him he just sat up and quit.  You win the green jersey by sprinting to the line, fighting for those points your sponsor pays you to earn.

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post #49 of 180
7/8/10 at 9:39am
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I'm an official Mark Cavendish hater. The fact that he won today pretty much soured the rest of my day.

 

I was predicting that if he didn't win one before the mountains that he would abandon at some point.

 

I'm actually still hoping for that. I do know that he won't be putting that green jersey on in this tour unless a miracle happens. he's just not complete enough to make up those points.
 





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Plus he just plain quit the other day.  He says he deserved the green jersey last year, and wants to win it this year, but when Petachi got the jump on him he just sat up and quit.  You win the green jersey by sprinting to the line, fighting for those points your sponsor pays you to earn.


Yes but he's still by far the best pure sprinter in the world and he's correct he did deserve the green jersey last year.  I personally think the way they award points for it is idiotic.  If you have a race that comes down to sprint you want Cav on your team or your team will likely not win. Who cares who finishes 2nd or 3rd ....2nd is just 1st loser.

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post #50 of 180
7/8/10 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post Who cares who finishes 2nd or 3rd ....2nd is just 1st loser.



And the most revered rider in French cycling history is Poulidor,,,, "the eternal second".  I for one am proud of any second place finish I've had in a bike race, and certainly appreciate the performance of any rider near the front at the finish..

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post #51 of 180
7/8/10 at 10:07am


 

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And the most revered rider in French cycling history is Poulidor,,,, "the eternal second".  I for one am proud of any second place finish I've had in a bike race, and certainly appreciate the performance of any rider near the front at the finish..


I have been happy with seconds, I had 3 to the same person last year and he is now winning 1/2/3 road races so losing to a guy who can beat 1/2/3s isnt such a bad thing. Id still love a 1st at some point in time.

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post #52 of 180
7/8/10 at 10:29am
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Yes but he's still by far the best pure sprinter in the world and he's correct he did deserve the green jersey last year.  I personally think the way they award points for it is idiotic.  If you have a race that comes down to sprint you want Cav on your team or your team will likely not win. Who cares who finishes 2nd or 3rd ....2nd is just 1st loser.

Well the green jersey is not purely a "sprinters jersey". It's a points jersey. Thor Hushovd went out and earned it on a break through the mountains last year. Cav can't/won't do that. He is dependent on being towed to the line by his team. So he did not deserve it.

 

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post #53 of 180
7/8/10 at 10:38am

Cav claims he was robbed of the jersey last year because he lost points on a stage in which he was disqualified.  I doubt all the riders he took out in the Tour de Suisse would agree---they held a one minute protest just to let him know that he needs to learn to respect the other riders. His coach Eric Zabel won the green jersey six times, and I can't think of a single race in which he took down other riders or was relegated by the judges.  Zabel just did one clean sprint after another, sometimes winning, often not, but it sure earned him a pile of green shirts.

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post #54 of 180
7/8/10 at 12:05pm


I already have.    To recap: I see  3 separate groups at the front 10km from the finish thus:

 

1) The lanky Francospaniard group on crazy breakaway (Not sastre, not freire, possibly flecha)

2) The first chase (Liquigas, Bbox/other french team)  +  1min

3) The Wiggins/Contador/Schleck/Armstrong/Brajkovic group  with Menchov and Kreuzinger and Evans holding on, Vinokourov sagging a bit.   + 1:35   Basso properly belongs in this group but will try to showboat a bit.

4) The yellow jersey + 2

5) Everyone else

 

With the stage going to either one of the french guys or a Radioshack guy from the 2nd chase.

 

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The podium for a stage is just the winner, and that could be one of 25 riders.  Give us your pick and we'll see how it pans out. Cattle Evens could well have yellow if all the GC riders are together.

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post #55 of 180
7/8/10 at 12:26pm

Has anyone been following the live telemetry of HTC riders and others from Google and SRM? It blows me away how much power these guys can make. I can't wait to see the peaks and average power they make climbing.

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post #56 of 180
7/8/10 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by ZeroGravity View Post

Has anyone been following the live telemetry of HTC riders and others from Google and SRM? It blows me away how much power these guys can make. I can't wait to see the peaks and average power they make climbing.


Contador may actually be making more power per lb than anyone has, ever.

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/07/tour-2009-contador-climb.html

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post #57 of 180
7/8/10 at 1:15pm
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Contador may actually be making more power per lb than anyone has, ever.

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/07/tour-2009-contador-climb.html


Armstrong said something to that effect today:

 

"ajoutant que l'Espagnol «est probablement l'un des coureurs les plus talentueux qui soit jamais monté sur un vélo»."

 

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2010/20100708_211743_armstrong-des-debuts-stressants.html
 

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post #58 of 180
7/8/10 at 1:27pm

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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post

Cav claims he was robbed of the jersey last year because he lost points on a stage in which he was disqualified.  I doubt all the riders he took out in the Tour de Suisse would agree---they held a one minute protest just to let him know that he needs to learn to respect the other riders. His coach Eric Zabel won the green jersey six times, and I can't think of a single race in which he took down other riders or was relegated by the judges.  Zabel just did one clean sprint after another, sometimes winning, often not, but it sure earned him a pile of green shirts.

Personally I don't like Cav. He's just too arrogant for my taste (having to work around peloton from time to time, makes me think very similar about Lance too, but that's different story), and on top of that I consider his riding extremely dangerous. If he see it won't go, he will take out as many other as he can. He will never fall alone, he will always take care to take out as many others as he can. And for me, that's not fair way to play the game. Not whole world is spinning just around him, and not everyone else will move away when he comes. 

But never the less, he is one of best sprinters around... even if we don't like him :) As far as green jersey is about... I don't know. On one side it's fine as it is, but on the other side, it should be jersey for pure sprinters not for getting out in escape and gather points. It should be (even if it would be different color then) jersey for best sprinter. And points for this jersey should be counted only in finish line. But that's just my opinion, which doesn't really matter when it comes to this :)
 

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post #59 of 180
7/8/10 at 2:02pm
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Personally I don't like Cav. He's just too arrogant for my taste (having to work around peloton from time to time, makes me think very similar about Lance too, but that's different story), and on top of that I consider his riding extremely dangerous. If he see it won't go, he will take out as many other as he can. He will never fall alone, he will always take care to take out as many others as he can. And for me, that's not fair way to play the game. Not whole world is spinning just around him, and not everyone else will move away when he comes. 

But never the less, he is one of best sprinters around... even if we don't like him :) As far as green jersey is about... I don't know. On one side it's fine as it is, but on the other side, it should be jersey for pure sprinters not for getting out in escape and gather points. It should be (even if it would be different color then) jersey for best sprinter. And points for this jersey should be counted only in finish line. But that's just my opinion, which doesn't really matter when it comes to this :)
 


The way I see it. If the guy that gets to the line first is such a great rider, then there is no reason they shouldn't be able to get out and win some of the intermediate sprints. If you want to prove you're the bes sprinter, then go race track.
 

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post #60 of 180
7/9/10 at 7:08am

For all of us number crunching weenies, the SRM live telemetry data for some riders from Saxo, Cofidis, Liquigas, and all of HTC can be found here

 

http://www.srmlive.de/Data/Telemetry.html

 

Google is also providing the same for HTC only http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/mytrackstour/

 

The SRM site displays all the riders data, where the Google site is one rider at a time.

 

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