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post #61 of 69

Will Stockli benefit from a great showing in the Olympics?  In a word ..... NOPE ....

 

The podiums were by the gals ... the dames .... and they don't sell skis.  ... OK, Lindsey (too fat ), Vonn may?

 

Hermanator ... he sells skis.  Bode sells skis.  Cuche (who dat?) ... here no ... in Euroland .. yep.

 

Ad hype sells and it used to kill me watching a racer come up the ranks and then get bought by Atomeeeeek with their mountain of money.  Yes, if you have connections can probably as a racer get a good ski.  Volkl started to go downhill (as they should of course), and I tried "off the rack" Atomeeeek and they was sooooo bad.

 

I ended up on Stockli with a long chase just to try them .... but couldn't afford them at first .... so stuck with P-40's and then finally ended up on Stockli and never looked back.  I freaking loved them.  Ice ... soooooo good ... orgasmic by comparison and trees and branches and rocks and blood freak me out.

 

From memory Ambrosi Hoffman probably had the only Olympic podium on Stockli in ... 06' bronze in SG ??  I think I'm the only person who noticed.  Ambrossi  was then bought by Atomeeeeek and later Head.  I will stand corrected since this is from memory.

 

Stockli (IMHO) ... does not give a hoot and I think they have their niche.  Pretty good presence in Europe but here almost none.  What they have is a loyal following and idiots like me do all the ad work by squeeling like a stuck pig about them.  Small but solid company that does not want to be #1.  They did sell a bit of their soul a few years ago  when they contracted with Head Austria to make their beginner ski.  Even the kids race were hand-made Swiss.

post #62 of 69

Strange bedfellows? 

 

So VDub needs something to replace the Karmann Ghia so Porsche poops out the 914 and it will be sold as VW's or PorchChairs depending on the motor?  Then the 914 goes extinct and is replaced by the 924?  The 924 has an engine that was built under license from AMC and the block originally powered the Gremlin X that could be bought with an interior from Levi Strauss in blue denim ... tag and rivet and everything. 

 

I had a few 914's and a 916.  Ok, it wasn't a real 916 but it did have the cool body panels of the racer and I painted it that cold and icy Porsche grey/blue metalic.

 

Frankly, most cars kinda' sucked back then.  The Porsche (356, 911 or whatever) and the Mercs rusted fast.  Lucas was the Prince of Darkness and who needs light and you can change an electric fuel pump in 20 minutes if you are slow.  But, cars were magic.  An October day with the top off and the leaves turning to amber and red.  The sun is shining and the road along the Weston Canal (Delaware Raritan Canal), winds like a snake.  In third gear the 2.0 motor growls such a tone that .. and the moment brought tears to my eyes suddenly ... it was bliss.  Now, the jack points were rusted away so I hope I don't get a flat cause the POS VW/Porch can't go up in the air to get a tire off.  I told myself last week to put the scissors jack and a few planks in the boot ... I'll do it when I get home.  I can't wait to mount those minilite 8 spokes ... ok they are knock-offs but for $75 and a trip .. heck the ride to Saugerties alone was a blast.

 

There is a newish used Saab out in the driveway.  Actually it is mostly GM and the freaking thing does not have a soul.  Supposed to be "the most powerful engine yada-yada but ... no soul.  GM and Saab ???  Spyker and Saab perhaps .... soon as the warranty is up this pup is going in for a transplant of S-O-U-L.

post #63 of 69
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Strange bedfellows? 

 

So VDub needs something to replace the Karmann Ghia so Porsche poops out the 914 and it will be sold as VW's or PorchChairs depending on the motor?  Then the 914 goes extinct and is replaced by the 924?  The 924 has an engine that was built under license from AMC and the block originally powered the Gremlin X that could be bought with an interior from Levi Strauss in blue denim ... tag and rivet and everything. 

 

I had a few 914's and a 916.  Ok, it wasn't a real 916 but it did have the cool body panels of the racer and I painted it that cold and icy Porsche grey/blue metalic.

 

Frankly, most cars kinda' sucked back then.  The Porsche (356, 911 or whatever) and the Mercs rusted fast.  Lucas was the Prince of Darkness and who needs light and you can change an electric fuel pump in 20 minutes if you are slow.  But, cars were magic.  An October day with the top off and the leaves turning to amber and red.  The sun is shining and the road along the Weston Canal (Delaware Raritan Canal), winds like a snake.  In third gear the 2.0 motor growls such a tone that .. and the moment brought tears to my eyes suddenly ... it was bliss.  Now, the jack points were rusted away so I hope I don't get a flat cause the POS VW/Porch can't go up in the air to get a tire off.  I told myself last week to put the scissors jack and a few planks in the boot ... I'll do it when I get home.  I can't wait to mount those minilite 8 spokes ... ok they are knock-offs but for $75 and a trip .. heck the ride to Saugerties alone was a blast.

 

There is a newish used Saab out in the driveway.  Actually it is mostly GM and the freaking thing does not have a soul.  Supposed to be "the most powerful engine yada-yada but ... no soul.  GM and Saab ???  Spyker and Saab perhaps .... soon as the warranty is up this pup is going in for a transplant of S-O-U-L.


The only thing Saab on the new ones is the key on the floor, great looking wheels and some of the best seats ("chairs") in the industry. 

post #64 of 69

Saab's waning popularity....mid-year sales results in Canada, courtesy of AIAMC:

 

1.   Ford         132,692

2.   GM          123,138

3.   Chrysler   105,110

4.   Toyota       93,272

 

10. Mercedes  15,896

 

157.  Saab      0

post #65 of 69

 

Can you extract Toyota's share from the previous report and compare with the mid year?

 

Pleeze?

post #66 of 69

Everyone is scared of Saab rightnow because GM was liquidating them.  Way back in November they only sold like 200 cars nationwide in the US.  I still think they are awesome.  I would love a 9-3 Aero XWD Wagon.  The Turbo v6 version, if I could find one somewhere, and then had money to pay for it.

post #67 of 69


 

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Originally Posted by mogulmuncher View Post


Amer still positions both Salomon and Atomic as premier brands, but maybe Volant by Salomon?
 


Heh.  How about Volant by Hyundai  as an Amer entry into, and a Hyundai investment in, the SK leisure market, then come back to the US in about 30 years.     

 

Like Scott USA did with bicycles.  And skis.  (In Europe).

 

Consider:

- Volant has a steel ski image

- Hyundai makes everything from steel, from cars to giant ships to turbines

- H. is a very trusted name.

- H. is selling like hotcakes even in the US

- H. will be looking for luxury branding, not soon, but within 10 years

- There will be a much larger SK sports leisure market then than there is now.


Edited by comprex - 7/7/10 at 12:52pm
post #68 of 69
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post


Heh.  How about Volant by Hyundai  as an Amer entry into, and a Hyundai investment in, the SK leisure market, then come back to the US in about 30 years.     

 

Like Scott USA did with bicycles.  And skis.  (In Europe).

 

Consider:

- Volant has a steel ski image

- Hyundai makes everything from steel, from cars to giant ships to turbines

- H. is a very trusted name.

- H. is selling like hotcakes even in the US

- H. will be looking for luxury branding, not soon, but within 10 years

- There will be a much larger SK sports leisure market then than there is now.


I lived there when I was 6 haha
H-Volant speed skates might do well in SK

post #69 of 69


 

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Originally Posted by mogulmuncher View Post

Saab's waning popularity....mid-year sales results in Canada, courtesy of AIAMC:

 

1.   Ford         132,692

2.   GM          123,138

3.   Chrysler   105,110

4.   Toyota       93,272

 

10. Mercedes  15,896

 

157.  Saab      0

SAABs were cool at one time and I owned a few (Sonnet II,  99 &  900).  They had front wheel drive that work great in the snow. they were practical, the rear seats folded down to haul stuff (not the Sonnet where the front seat was next to the gas tank), they didn't rust too fast and they lasted a long time.  Now almost all cars do this making Saab irrelevant.   The whole "Swedish" quality image is long gone.

 

Wait another 5 years and the Chinese cars will be in the top ten.  In another decade, they will be in the top four with GM gone for good.  Nobody can compete with Chinese when it comes to price, and the quality will eventually be there just like it eventually came with the Korean autos like KIA (killed in action) and Hyundai..
 

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