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individual or group lesson???

post #1 of 9
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Not sure if this can be answered?
If someone was at the ability level where they could make comfortable parallel turns on all groomed runs and few turns in the moguls before bailing. They do not pole plant in a fluid fashion but their balance is fairly solid. Would a group lesson benefit this person? I realize that any input is a good thing, but I have personally experienced a group lesson as a big waste of time. I believe that a one hour private lesson is likely much more beneficial than a group lesson of 4 hours. Am I off base??
This person had not been on skis in 6 years. The biggest improvement in their skiing came when they were encouraged to open their stance.
post #2 of 9
A lot would depend on the person. Do they learn better in a group enviroment or one on one. The private will usually be more beneficial however at that level, it may not be worth the cost. Also how much can that person absorb in a short amount of time. Often multiple short lessons with the same instructor are better than one long lesson. One tactic I like to use that creates a "better balance" is if I am going somewhere for say a week with a group of friends, find a group of friends that want to all take lessons and group them together based on skills. For arguments sake make them all level 7 on the ski school's charts. get an instructor that meets your needs and book him/her for multiple days as a 1 or 2 hour private every morning for the whole group. Most schools have a price for private +xxx for each additional person. When you get to 5 or 6 people the cost is about the same as a group lesson but you get the instructor of your choice that can follow your progression as you improve and you get to ski with your friends. some time is spent with a new instructor evaluating. by having the same instructor over several days, the time spent doing evaluation is mostly eliminated on the second day and through the week. More time to ski and learn.
post #3 of 9
If your goal is to also save money by going with the group lesson, choose times that may not be the most desirable. By doing this you can still get into a very small class if not a private lesson.
But I definitly agree with the idea that a few classes spread out a bit will be more benificial than one long one, with a bit of time in between you get to practice and develop the muscle memory of the newly aquired skills, thus being able to more easily prgress.
post #4 of 9
The other thing to check for is "early bird" specials. Sugar bowl for instance offered 1 hour "early" privates. 1 person, 1 instructor, 1 hour. from 9:00-10:00. 35.00 and I even found a PSIA level 3 Cert to take a lesson from!
post #5 of 9
Also consider what the skier wants to work on (what that person needs to do) and this may or may not be served in a group lesson, even with only a few other skiers. It's often hit and miss.

The last few times I've gotten a group lesson, I've chalked them up to reinforcement of a few things I got from a private lesson, but felt I got more "bang for the buck" (or, in that case, franc) from the private lessons. Cute French guy who spoke English was a nice added feature. I felt that, at times, though, group lessons did not serve for me to expand my horizons; I'm basically someone who's comfortable being the worst (or nearly the worst) skier in the group. I try to rise to meet the rest, to keep up. In the last few group lessons, I felt I was probably one of the best skiers (of course, that may not be saying much )

So, this individual has to factor those things in and well as other personal style issues of fun in groups versus serious 1 on 1 development, if one learns from watching other skiers struggle through a drill (sometimes I get a lot from that) and how one prefers being best, average or the worst in a group.


Dante non ha mai immaginato questo cerchio dell'inferno!
post #6 of 9
A group lesson generally costs near half what a private would be, and groups generally run six to eight folks. That's ten or fewer minutes of instructor attention per student. Unless everyone in the group has basically the same problems and learns through basically the same method, your best bang for the buck is the private lesson.
post #7 of 9
One of the problems is the fact that people are never accurate about their actual level. I've been in level 3 classes where there are students who ski mostly black diamonds, and level 5 classes with people who have had 3 lessons, and have never skied anything harder than a green.

Be Braver in your body, or your luck will leave you. DH Lawrence
post #8 of 9
Good point re the breakdown of time spent. Another thing to be aware of is that often privates are arranged with specific goals in mind and often with an instructor hand picked to meet these goals where the group lesson will most likely have an instructor to meet the maximum level of the class. If this does not include enough evaluating skills to move people out, either up or down, then the whole class suffers.
Give me one of those and I'm out of there and talking to the SS director or manager getting my money back.
post #9 of 9
I agree with Kneale on this one, unless of course the instructor is very delligent in making sure that everyone in the group demonstrates that they are at about the same level of sking and everyone is clear on what they want to work on, and it is the same thing/s Usually, the ski school director is looking for maximum efficiencey [ selling the most lessons possible ] with the most efficient student/instructor ratio. Which makes the forgoing often impossible.So the private is most likely the way to go.
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