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Thank you, thank you, thank you city of San Diego for sending us your favorite son.

 

Ain't Caps vs. Pens, but sure fun! How about that Stephen Strasburg? 14KOs in 7 innings/94 pitches for a win over the Pirates in his MLB debut. I need to get to National's Park this season.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2010/06/09/ST2010060900179.html?sid=ST2010060900179

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The kid has game. 

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Very exciting to see someone tossing 100 MPH heat consistantly.  Let's hope he can keep it up without getting hurt.  Loved the greats of yesteryear that had that kind if heat over a long career, Nolan Ryan and Goose Gossage come to mind.

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My hero did it again, another quality outing and a victory. He's gonna lift this whole team up!

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This really reminds me of the debut of Dwight Gooden in 1984.  Remember, the Mets came around and became World Champions in 86

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The baseball holiday known as Strasmas - it comes every fifth day on your calendar


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The 21-year-old rookie struck out 10 to run his total to an unprecedented 32 through three starts, but he experienced his first no-decision as the Chicago White Sox beat the Washington Nationals 2-1 in 11 innings before another sellout crowd.

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This kid has a curve that is making even Pedro go..wow. 

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I was at his debut game, and I haven't seen such an electric and captivated crowd at a Nats game since the first half of their first season here in DC (back when they had the best record in the NL and the hottest closer in MLB).

 

If the pitching schedule sticks to plan, I'll be at his next start, too.

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I got to see Stephen Strasburg pitch last night 9JUL10.  Nationals beat Giants 8-1. He's no-nonsense and makes it look easy.  Gave up a lead-off homer, however, then pitched very well through six innings, striking out eight.  Big Adam Dunn had a double and two homers and now leads the NL with 22.

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NATSTOWN !!!

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Has the curse of the Bambino moved to DC?

Stephen Strasburg 'probably' needs Tommy John surgery, will miss 12 to 18 months.

Say it ain't so!!

This surgery has been around a long time and is well understood, but I had no idea it has become such a common red badge of courage for MLB pitchers these days:

Nine pitchers who underwent Tommy John surgery were selected for the 2010 All-Star Game: Chris Carpenter, Tim Hudson, Josh Johnson, Arthur Rhodes, Brian Wilson, Joakim Soria, Hong-Chih Kuo, Rafael Soriano and Billy Wagner. Potential National League rookie of the Jamie Garcia also had the operation.

Just last night 8/26/10, the Nats Jordan Zimmermann returned from his recovery from Tommy John surgery and faced Carpenter, who endured the operation and rehab in 2007 and 2008 and finished second in National League Cy Young voting in 2009.

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I think the reaction to this among fans is rediculous. Yea its pretty sad that he will be out for a year. But its basicly guranteed that he will come back and be able to pitch at the same level by Spring 2012. 

 

The nats problems were mostly defensive and injurises / insonsistent play form the starters. They give the opposition too many outs and letting their starters down by turning jams into big innings and big innnings into real game enders. Desomnd looks alot smarter and more consistent the last month. Kennedy seems to be palying better and Morgan looks at least a bit less like a hockey player. If they can get consistent starts form Lannan and Marquis and resign Livan in addition to the new cuban and a healthy JZimm, thats 5 guys who should keep them in some games and they could be a lot closer to a .500 team next year even with out Stras.

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Stephen is yet another casualty of the limits of the human body.  Being able to throw over 100 MPH doesn't mean your body can handle the strain.  The past is full of pitching phenoms who's elbows and shoulders couldn't take it.  Ask any Cubs fan about the summer of Kerry Woods and what happened to him after he had Tommy John surgery, which Strasburg is going to have.  Pitchers like Nolan Ryan and Big Unit are freaks because they were able to pitch so hard for so long.

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Nothing is a guarantee coming back from Tommy John. I hope he comes back as good as he was, but he may be the next Kerry Wood or Mark Prior.

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Those guys have had multiple surgeries and alot of other shoulder issues as well. Obviously nothing is guaranteed in sports medicine, but its about 90% come back fine from TJ. I for one will expect he will come back fine unless / until he doesn't. 

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Very exciting to see someone tossing 100 MPH heat consistantly.  Let's hope he can keep it up without getting hurt.  Loved the greats of yesteryear that had that kind if heat over a long career, Nolan Ryan and Goose Gossage come to mind.


I think it was the curse of crgildart.  Dang, right when they sign a heavy hitter to add the offense this happens  I feel or the Nat's fans.  DC finally had something worth watching outdoors.  After all, my Mets aren't doint anything this year so I was actually starting to get excited for my DC friends.  Maybe they can keep it up, but the team  is/was certainly better with the ace.

 

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you throw thats hard sooner or later something is going to go

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Strasburg makes heartwarming connection with similarly injured Virginia youth:

http://www.mechlocal.com/index.php/sports/article/injury_leads_to_major_league_connection/

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Strasburg is slated to make his MLB return pitching for the Washington Nationals on Sep 6, 2011. 

I think I'm gonna be there.yahoo.gif

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Strasburg is slated to make his MLB return pitching for the Washington Nationals on Sep 6, 2011. 

I think I'm gonna be there.yahoo.gif


You are a blessed man James!icon14.gif

 

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I hate to be a downer, but until he changes his mechanics and gets his elbow below the shoulder level, he's going to continue to have arm problems.  This is why a little guy like Tim Lincecum has stayed healthy despite heavy workloads and a big stud like Strasburg already had surgery.  Five years from now you won't see any pitching prospects with the raised elbow release, I'm guessing.

 

I sincerely hope Strasburg can make the change and still be as effective, because he's definitely fun to watch.

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Text book Inverted 'W'

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any time your franchise player's closest comparison is Mark Prior... well, you might be in Nat'stown!!!

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I hate to be a downer, but until he changes his mechanics and gets his elbow below the shoulder level, he's going to continue to have arm problems.  This is why a little guy like Tim Lincecum has stayed healthy despite heavy workloads and a big stud like Strasburg already had surgery.  Five years from now you won't see any pitching prospects with the raised elbow release, I'm guessing.

 

I sincerely hope Strasburg can make the change and still be as effective, because he's definitely fun to watch.


Must be referring to this??

 

 

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Pitching Mechanics Analysis
Stephen Strasburg

This piece brings together all of the pieces I have written about Stephen Strasburg, his pitching mechanics, and his injury history.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes.  I wasn't aware of the inverted W terminology, but even going back to pitching in little league, the emphasis was always to keep that elbow below your shoulder or you're going to hurt your arm.  Some didn't believe in it, but I was taught this and based on watching many famous pitchers of different eras, definitely became a believer.

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Well, even The Ryan Express didn't always stick to the basics..

 

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That DOES look painful!

 

 

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I only liked him when I was 5..

 

As a role model he seems like a decent individual, but I never liked the Rangers or Astros much when I lived in Texas.

 

 

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Possibly... it's because of the cache that comes with all of those no-hitters, so I get why and it doesn't really bother me.  Plus, he'll always be remembered for the time Robin Ventura charged him when Nolan was already over 40 and took care of business in the fight with a headlock and some head shots.
 

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 Plus, he'll always be remembered for the time Robin Ventura charged him when Nolan was already over 40 and took care of business in the fight with a headlock and some head shots.
 

Oh ya, I forgot about that.  I think Rangers fans has special shirts made to wear to games immediately following that.  Newest NWO member, stuff like that. 
 

 

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I heard he's been asked to autograph this photo more than any other piece of memorabilia, including baseballs.

 

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