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Well, the toaster was the victim but I didn't eggzactly wreck it. A bear broke out a window, got inside and basically pureed the interior trying to get out........

 

Yes the Watea is one of those "no-brainer" type skis that everybody seems to like save the heaviest, most aggro skiers.

 

Mario:

 

I won't be around the store much much for the next week. If you want to call in, after the 13th will be a better chance to get me.(I guess I'll be in and out a little looking for a car though). Anyway don't despair on the ski thing, the Wateas are a great choice. Keep in mind they are 174's too albeit a very easy going ski for that length. If the Wateas sell out or the lengths on those two 2011's seem like a fit, I can help you on the price of those two 2011's. If something fairly short seems like a fit I have a Nordica HR Pro "Burner" in 162 that is Sultanish. As others have mentioned, there are lots of good choices and I have a few things up my sleeve for later this summer that might work as well as the Watea.

 

SJ





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Holy crap, my thread has been highjacked!! I thought I was going to come in and get all this info.....

 

However, it is a pretty funny hijack and I am not upset at all, really, especially since I feel bad for telling Jim I thought it was pretty funny what happened, and that it would never happen in Miami, Fl

 

I know it is not funny now, Jim, but I am sure you will laugh about it in less than 6 months.  Hell, you seem to be laughing at it right now.

 

Anyhow, to address the pertinent comments, yes, I know that I can put $400 in an envelope and hide it, but, it will never really be hidden and something will cause me to raid it AND I was planning on putting it on the credit car and pay it off slowly.  Then I can do the same for the boots.

 

I would wait, but it seems that Jim is running out of deals and I don't want to miss out (I already seem to have missed out on a few already.)

 

What are your opinions on length.  Jim seems to think that I can do up to 174, do you guys agree?JIM: Please call me when you get the chance.  I PM'ed you my cell number.


Don't fear.  Jim will take care of you, But remember  DON'T smear honey on his dash when you visit him!

post #32 of 53

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Looks like Jim really needs this sale

post #33 of 53
Thread Starter 

Don't blame it on the bear Jim.  Blame it on the Alcohol! 

 

I am curious, what does the insurance guy say when you call him up with this?

post #34 of 53

I don't think the bear was drinking.

 

SJ

post #35 of 53
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What are your opinions on length.  Jim seems to think that I can do up to 174, do you guys agree?


Esu -- I might be in the minority here, but I think 174 may be too long for you now.  In your initial post, you indicated that you are 5'8", you found sking a 158 to be somewhat dicey, and that currently you ski greens approx. 2/3 of the time.  Based on that, I would stay in the 160 - 167 range.  In a few years, when you're skiing blues to get to the blacks, you could go longer. 

 

Just my $ .02. 
 

post #36 of 53

Yo Jim,

 

What a way to ruin the inside of a killer Element..Boo!

Even a bushel of my drunken friends and family couldn't do this much damage..

 

Maybe the plastic the bear ingested will give him terminal diarrhea....

post #37 of 53
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Thanks Jimski for your input.

 

I believe you are right.  I don't think I will jump to a 174, however, I am interested in the blizzard magnum 7.6 at 170.  They are known for their carving and forgiveness.  The next step down is a 163 and that may be too short for me next year.

 

The Wateas are know to be easy to turn so I am interested in those, specifically the 7.8, though reports of it losing stability at high speeds kinda worries me.


Edited by esumsea - 6/13/10 at 3:50pm
post #38 of 53
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So it looks like the blizzards or the wateas.  I love the design of the Wateas, but the blizzards seem like the better choice.

 

I am a little bit leery of stepping it up to 170, but I think that its a better option than a 163.

 

Any thoughts from instructors?

post #39 of 53

Holy Crap, Jim!!!

Ouch!!!

post #40 of 53
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Holy Crap, Jim!!!

Ouch!!!


That's eggzactly what I said when I walked out to the car to go to work.

 

SJ

post #41 of 53
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I was holding myself back but I just have to say it.....

Did you leave some bread in your toaster? 


I think the bear thought it was more of a lunch box than a toaster. 

post #42 of 53
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Pulled the trigger today on the BLizzards magnum 7.6 IQ with Marker bindings.  Got a great deal from Sierra Jim.  Thanks Man!

 

Hopefully I will not be held back to far by the length, but I figured it was better to get skies that will last me 2-3 years rather than some that will last just a year.  Now I can just wait until august to get my boots.

post #43 of 53
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Hopefully I will not be held back to far by the length, but I figured it was better to get skies that will last me 2-3 years rather than some that will last just a year. 


Finally...If you're talking about 170 cm, chill. What would hold you back is being on skis too short for you such as the snowblades you've been using. The 7.6 170's are nowhere near long for an athletic male, regardless of your size or level. Even a jockey would use a 170. Well, maybe longer; jockeys are freaky strong for their size. 

post #44 of 53

the 170 is fine for a person who is 5 8', especially for learning and refining on groomed. Enjoy!  Stand them up where they can be seen all summer!  Nothing better than new skis in the summer......

post #45 of 53

Some pretty good advise here.  I have always liked SJs posts and would love to meet him someday.  It's good that you want to support him.  Buy your boots first!  They really are the most important piece of gear you will own.  Also you can travel with boots as carry on.  Skis need to be checked and are a bit of a pain to fly with.  You can Demo good high performance skis at the resort and will be more likely to be on the best gear for any given condition on that trip.  You can also get more of a feel for the type and length of ski you like.  Using your own boots will remove a major variable in your ski evaluations.  Demo skis as opposed to rentals tend to be in better condition and tuned better.  If you buy skis without having bought boots first, get skis with an adjustable binding or buy demo skis in good condition and save a bunch of money.  You don't want to have to get your new skis remounted and you will have no reliable way to know what your boot sole length will be for the binding mount with out having the boot.

 

As for the skis...

 

I skied on Dynastars a lot this past winter and really liked all of them.  I think the Fischers are also very good and have demoed some of the Wateas and have been happy every pair of Fischer skis I have owned.  I have no experience with Blizzard, but know that they have a great reputation.  Based on some of your posts in other threads, I think that the Volkls will be too much ski for you.  The AC50 is a real beast and IMO will hold you back.

 

Based on your previous post I am going to recommend lessons for you as well.  I think you will want to buy a ski in a longer length than you have been renting.  I think the 165-172 range you mentioned sounds about right.  IMO you will have a few problems with your technique as you bring up the length and lessons with a competent instructor should clear this up quickly.  I like your enthusiasm and think that you are on the right track to get the most out of your new sport.

 

SJ...  Sorry about your car.  I've been spending a bunch of time in Yellowstone lately and hope that doesn't happen to me! 

post #46 of 53
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys for your responses!

 

Beyond: Yes, Finally.  I hope I don't drive you guys and gals crazy with my fastidious nature.  As one with a Masters in psychology, I know I have some OCPD (not OCD) character traits, but it is part who I am.  I go all in and make sure to TRY to cover every angle when I make a purchase, so as to not regret my decision.  Maybe if I had more money I could live better with my mistakes, but these are big decisions for me. I do agree that shorter skis may not be better.  I remember when I first started to learn (wayyyy back in December 2009) I was skiing with 153s (which I believe were longer than any ski given to me at a rental shop after that) I had no problems going straight down the end of greens, catching some speed (relatively) and feeling confident.  With all the other skies, they would chatter and I would really freak out.

 

 

Finndog: Yes, I am glad to hear from the past posts that it looks like I did not screw up in going to the 170s.  The Magnums will be staying at StartHaus (SJ's shop in Truckee) until I get the set up for the boots I will buy from SJ.  If figured I might as well get everything done there.

 

Tentonpwdrjunkie: Glad you agree with the advice here.  While I bought my skis first, the boots will really be bought and fit at the same time as my boots with SJ.  I know how important boots are, which is why I will drive 4 hours out of my way, and "waste" a vacation day fitting my wife and I for boots at Start Haus.  I am willing to pay for an expert to fit them because I hate, hate, HATE rental boots.  I believe using demo rentals have cost me advancement in skiing technique as well as time on the slopes. As far as supporting Jim, while I do believe in rewarding those who are willing to offer some help and support through forums, I believe I am getting more than my money's worth with someone who really cares about his profession and is conscientious when selecting the product for a client.  From everything I have heard about Sierra Jim, as well as my short conversation with him on the phone, I believe he is the right person to advise me.  Trust for me is priceless.

 

Of course I will continue with lessons, though I think I will be more selective with the instructors I choose and will defer to private lessons.  They are ridiculously expensive ($595 for 6 hours!!!!) in some resorts but I guess (because of the lack of alternatives) they are worth it for nothing else comes close to that type of instruction, though I will supplement it with books (Skiers Edge), videos (both ski porn and instructional) and lots of physical training. 

 

I really appreciate the complement on my enthusiasm.  I surely do love the feeling one gets when everything is clicking and you are really "riding the wave."  I had never experienced anything like it, whether on water skies or surfing, and when I first felt that feeling, which unfortunately was on the last day of my first ski trip, I was hooked.


post #47 of 53

Esum, Since you are jumping in head first here, I would strognly suggest you consider the ESA snowmass clinic in January. First off, the instruction is second to none, seriously.  You will also get to ski and know a lot of bears there.  Check it out, I think they are still finalizing the plans but its a great clinic, you will skis some graet terrain, challenge yourself physically and mentally, have a lot of laughs along the way.

 

BTW_ good job on the skis and the decision to start off the season with properly fit boots.

post #48 of 53
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I would love to do that Finndog, but the registration is closed and it is during the 2nd week of school.  My doctoral program is made up of a bunch of Nazis that will write you up if you have just one unexcused absence (freaken ridiculous, if you ask me).  So, alas, I cannot attend.  Hopefully they will schedule another.  If only they would schedule it during a weekend, from Thurs to Tues, then I could do it, but I could see how that would not be conducive to their aims.

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Calling tc????? 

post #50 of 53
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

Esum, Since you are jumping in head first here, I would strognly suggest you consider the ESA snowmass clinic in January. First off, the instruction is second to none, seriously.  You will also get to ski and know a lot of bears there.  Check it out, I think they are still finalizing the plans but its a great clinic, you will skis some graet terrain, challenge yourself physically and mentally, have a lot of laughs along the way.

 

BTW_ good job on the skis and the decision to start off the season with properly fit boots.





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I would love to do that Finndog, but the registration is closed and it is during the 2nd week of school.  My doctoral program is made up of a bunch of Nazis that will write you up if you have just one unexcused absence (freaken ridiculous, if you ask me).  So, alas, I cannot attend.  Hopefully they will schedule another.  If only they would schedule it during a weekend, from Thurs to Tues, then I could do it, but I could see how that would not be conducive to their aims.


We are finishing up some details on the 2011 ESA program.  When we open registration and announce the dates/pricing, I hope that its something you can consider.  The combination of phenomenal coaching and tremendous social climate make for a great experience. 

Let me know if you have any questions.

post #51 of 53
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Looks like I was looking at last year's dates.

I would love to do it and can do any date in December.  Unfortunately I cant do much past the first week of January and evn that is pushing it.  If I cannot do it in the early session hopefully there will be In March during the week of the 14-18, that is my spring break.

 

Let me know.

 

Mario

post #52 of 53
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Just wanted to report back that I saw Sierra Jim at Start Haus and he did an excellent job fitting my wife and I in Salomon boots.  Took almost 3 hours, but it was worth it.  Jim was very friendly, informative and helpful.  THANKS JIM!!!!!!!!

 

I ended up with the Impact 10 CS and my wife got the Instinct CS. 

post #53 of 53
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Looks like I was looking at last year's dates.

I would love to do it and can do any date in December.  Unfortunately I cant do much past the first week of January and evn that is pushing it.  If I cannot do it in the early session hopefully there will be In March during the week of the 14-18, that is my spring break.

 

Let me know.

 

Mario


The dates are posted here

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/95424/epicski-academy-2010-2011

 

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Originally Posted by esumsea View Post

Just wanted to report back that I saw Sierra Jim at Start Haus and he did an excellent job fitting my wife and I in Salomon boots.  Took almost 3 hours, but it was worth it.  Jim was very friendly, informative and helpful.  THANKS JIM!!!!!!!!

 

I ended up with the Impact 10 CS and my wife got the Instinct CS. 

 

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