EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ask the Boot Guys › Mondo vs. U.S. sizing question.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Mondo vs. U.S. sizing question.

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

I have a question about ski boot sizing.  Online I find sizing charts equating U.S. shoe size to Mondo.  My experience with purchasing footwear tells me I’m a U.S. size 10.5-11.0.  Depending on footwear type and manufacturer, my feet fit best in a U.S. size 10.5 or 11.0.

 

I measured my feet and one is 10.3/4 inches, the other is 10 5/8 inches long, which put’s me about dead square between 10.5 and 11.  This explains my preferred footwear size varying between 10.5 and 11.0.  I’m not a size 10.5 or 11.0, but rather a size 10.75.

 

Converting 10.75 inches to centimeters (10.75 * 2.54), I get 27.3 cm.

 

Now the charts say 10.5 = 28.5 mondo, but 10.5 times 2.54 equals 26.67.  So which size ski boot should I be wearing?  A 28.5 or 27.0?

 

For the record my current boot is a Head Edge+ 8.5 size 28 (flex 60) 104mm last, which according to the charts is a U.S. size 10.  I did the shell sizing as suggested in the “Boot Fitting Which Boot Will Work For Me” and my boots are a little oversized, the gap between my heal and the shell is roughly .75 inch.  I suspect I need a smaller sized boot.  I know I need a stiffer boot.

post #2 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugs View Post

 

 

Now the charts say 10.5 = 28.5 mondo, but 10.5 times 2.54 equals 26.67.  So which size ski boot should I be wearing?  A 28.5 or 27.0?

 

For the record my current boot is a Head Edge+ 8.5 size 28 (flex 60) 104mm last,


Two things to consider.....

 

(1) The charts are dead wrong. You should be in a 27 shell for a good recreational fit and possibly a 26 shell if your career on the World Cup or in Warren Miller films are on the line.

 

(2) Size is not the only thing that matters. Boot shape is critical as well. The Head Edge is best suited for a foot shaped more or less like a watermelon. If your foot looks more like a uhhhhh..........foot than said melon, then it's likely the Edge is much too high in volume as well as the wrong size.

 

SJ

post #3 of 23

got to agree with jim,

 

A the charts are a mess

B the head edge has its place but generally a very small place for people with very very high volume feet

C get yourself to a decent fitter and get sorted, measuring your feet is only a starting point, more than anything i use it to see how much motion there is between seated and standing measurements so i can determine what level of support you will need in the boot we eventually end up in

D the boot which is the right size WILL most likely feel too small when you first put it on, trust the fitter and give it 10 minutes for the liner to start to settle and your foot to get into the correct place inside, even then for a performance fit you will possibly need some work doing

post #4 of 23

I think you knocked this question out of the ball park with this line. You are basically saying "I need to try on shoes to know how they fit before I purchase... the number on the box doesn't help.". You are correct, you should try boots on, ignore any 'number' and go by fit.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugs View Post

 

  My experience with purchasing footwear tells me I’m a U.S. size 10.5-11.0.  Depending on footwear type and manufacturer, my feet fit best in a U.S. size 10.5 or 11.0.

 

post #5 of 23
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the info.  Unfortunately I live no where remotely near a boot fitter.  The only boot fitter I see is the kid at the local sporting goods store when they stock skis and ski boots on a seasonal basis.  I think I'm stuck ordering over the internet.  Fortunately I think my feet are pretty average, so I just need to zero in an average volume boot, flex 90/100, size 27/27.5.  My ankles are average also, not skinny and not huge.

 

I go through running and trail shoes pretty fast.  I put in the miles.  I've found that good shoes make a world of difference in fatigue and pain after a run or hike.  I expect ski boots are no different.

post #6 of 23

if that is the case then hang off until you get to a mountain where there is a good fitter.... you WILL NOT get a good fit over the internet

post #7 of 23

Hi Bugs,

 

As the guy's have said----sizing is all over the place,--- IMO, boot sizing charts seem to have more to do with selling than skiing.

 

If I may ask  where are you located? we might be able to help you find someone.

post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 

Located?  Why the Athens of the Midwest, Iowa City, Iowa.

 

I tried various things over the past season, attempting to improve the fit, feel, and function of my Head Edge +8.5 boots.  Some things helped, some made things worse, and some didn’t seem to make a difference.

 

How much am I looking at?  $$ wise for decent boots, custom footbeds.  The more I research and think about it, the more I think you bootfitter people may just be right.

post #9 of 23


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by bugs View Post

 The more I research and think about it, the more I think you bootfitter people may just be right.

Believe it, getting into the right size and shape boot to fit your feet is a quantum leap forward in your skiing experience and enjoyment.  Look for a qualified fitter near the next western resort you travel to and get fitted the first day while on  vacation---if you encounter any problems you should be able to get them adjusted during your trip.  Pay attention to shell fit---fitters recommendations---and get some custom foot beds.
 

post #10 of 23

These guys are dead right.  The chances of hitting a home run boot wise over the internet is slim.  The chances of a pop-up foul which totally wastes your money is big.  Slow down get to a fitter and get something that works.  The Head Edge you have is a great boot for gargantuan feet.  I sell several a year and never to less than an "E" width with big meaty ankles and a high instep. 

 

You say you have average feet.  Get out of the Edges and let someone knowledgeable help.

 

Lou

post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 

I keep seeing boots on Tramdock that I am tempted to buy, e.g. Tecnica Dragon 110 Ultrafit, 100 Ultrafit, etc...; but I resist and keep telling myself the boot fitter route is the way to go.

 

So what does everyone (or anyone) think about the Tecnica Dragon boots? 


Edited by bugs - 7/16/10 at 11:57am
post #12 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugs View Post

I keep seeing boots on Tramdock that I am tempted to buy, e.g. Tecnica Dragon 110 Ultrafit, 100 Ultrafit, etc...; but I resist and keep telling myself the boot fitter route is the way to go.

 

So what does everyone (or anyone) thing about the Tecnica Dragon boots? 


Sure.

 

SJ

post #13 of 23

your online indecision reminds me of a scene from the movie "animal house" where the young fraternity pledge has the mayor's daughter passed out in his bed and is having the classic internal disagreement with the devil on one shoulder telling him to go for it, and the angel on the other shoulder telling him to do the right thing.

 

i am going to represent the devil because i am seeing red after reading so many of my on-line compadre's give you excellent advice, and to see you second guess all the good info that has been given freely to you makes my skin crawl.

 

so first of all send me $100.00 for my free help, my advice ain't so cheap. and secondly go ahead and buy any boot that tram dock is selling, at any price, in any size, it will not matter. they are closeouts who cares. you have already bought one boot the wrong size, that usually fits feet the shape of my head (horns & pointed ears, and all), so if the online deals are sweet enough, and the boots turn out to be a bad match, you can always use them around the house as flower planters. than again you could get lucky and the throwing darts at the wall, online boot purchase method may work out perfectly for you. if that ends up being the case, send me another $100.00 for my free advice.

 

any of you angels out there want to make a heavenly counterpoint?

 

tongue and cheek as always, (you might think with a little time off, i might mellow out over the summer)

 

jim

post #14 of 23

Hey Jim,

 

     I like the movie analogy with the horns and all head shape, although when I saw you in March you must have had them retracted.

 

      I guess some folks never catch on!!

 

     Bugs---take a minute and reread the posts from months ago and try to absorb the line of thought.  The advice given is worth much more than the $200.00 Jim wants to charge.

 

mike

post #15 of 23
Thread Starter 

More like a moth to a bright light, besides I said I was only tempted. 

 

You gotta admit that funky dragon logo just looks so sick.  That's more than enough reason to snag a pair.

post #16 of 23

Perfect!  Snag a pair.  If they don't work use them as flower pots, then send Jim the money you spent on them to further remind yourself of all the advice you ignored here.  When some of us get together in the fall, we'll have drinks on you and toast your inability to absorb.

 

Lou

post #17 of 23

Lou for President !!!---Lou for President !!!---oh sorry fellas, I forgot, Lou is in Canada!!! --- but I still vote for what Lou said.

post #18 of 23
Thread Starter 

I'm absorbing just fine. I think I’ll order a couple pairs of each in size small and smaller.  That way I’m sure to have a pair that are too tight.  I’ll send the others back or just add them to the flower pot collection.  (Still dreaming of that perfect internet fit.)

post #19 of 23

Thanks for being a good sport.  Good luck with your new boots.

 

Lou

post #20 of 23

BTW, I get get people who travel from Iowa City to see me pretty often. We have a big sale the third weekend in Aug. I am sure we can find you some great boots at a very good price.

post #21 of 23

I'll second that.  Not the sale date part.  I'm certain everyone of the guys here has a list of customers that travel substantial distances to see them.  Hit the sale if you can, I'll bet you'll come away with a great deal on a proper boot.

 

Lou

post #22 of 23
Thread Starter 

Yeah, I was planning on checking out the two recommended shops in IL this fall.  I'll be pinging the websites in the coming weeks.  Thanks for the heads up.

 

Honestly, I want to be one of those people that writes a "I had a wonderful experience and I should have listened to the boot fitters in the first place."  posts.  Then I want to go skiing.

post #23 of 23

Cool, drop me a line when you are thinking of stopping by and I will set aside some time for you.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ask the Boot Guys
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ask the Boot Guys › Mondo vs. U.S. sizing question.