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One ski for South America

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

I am planning to go to Chile in the end of August for the first time (stoked!)

Currently I own a pair of Rossignol B2 bandits (2003) and Head monster88 (2008)

what would be the one ideal ski ( will be looking to ski slack country chutes and bowls .

I love the Monsters for blasting crud and moderate powder, but when I bought these I thought they were fat.  Now it seems like they are toothpicks compared to current all mountain skis.

From what I hear rentals are outdated in South America

Should I

a) Just bring the Monsters

b) Should I buy and bring a second pair just in case I am lucky enough to score deep pow?

c) Should I buy a new all mountain ski that is fatter, and turn my monsters into my rock skis?

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

post #2 of 17

Ask yourself a simple question.

 

Were the monsters fine two months ago?

 

If yes, then they will probably work in August.

 

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Or maybe you just want to buy new skis.

post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 

Probably looking for an excuse to buy more!

post #4 of 17

And who might you be going with?

 

You'll need a new pair for certain.  Problem is, the conditions vary greatly.  When it snows you can get 8 feet in one dump.  Or you could see firm conditions from lack of snow.  Either way buy a new pair of skis!

 

Dave really liked those s7's.

post #5 of 17

Given that most places you're likely to ski are above treeline, I'd suggest something fatter with grip. Candidates you can still find online, of varying wallet hits, and knowing nothing about your size, level, or likes/dislikes except what you already own: Elan 1010's, Watea 101's, Blizzard Titan Argos, Goats, Prior Husemes, PM Gear Bro 183's or 179's, depending on your size. 

post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 


Buzz,

Dave and I are getting close to finalizing details.  It is looking like middle of August.  Send me a message if you would like to come and can swing it!!!!  I'll make sure I go off any cliffs before you to soften the rocks first!!!
 

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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post

And who might you be going with?

 

You'll need a new pair for certain.  Problem is, the conditions vary greatly.  When it snows you can get 8 feet in one dump.  Or you could see firm conditions from lack of snow.  Either way buy a new pair of skis!

 

Dave really liked those s7's.

post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 


I am 5'10" 178 lbs.  Although it won't be there in South America, Trees are my favorite.  Next comes chutes.  I ski pretty hard, but I would not say that I have great form.  Thanks for you help so far!
 

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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Given that most places you're likely to ski are above treeline, I'd suggest something fatter with grip. Candidates you can still find online, of varying wallet hits, and knowing nothing about your size, level, or likes/dislikes except what you already own: Elan 1010's, Watea 101's, Blizzard Titan Argos, Goats, Prior Husemes, PM Gear Bro 183's or 179's, depending on your size. 

post #8 of 17

OK, then I'd narrow the list to these: Elan 1010, Goat, PM Bros 179. Good deals right now on the first two, last will get cheaper in another month. 

post #9 of 17

How long are you going for, a week?  The monsters would be fine 90% of the time?

 

Slack country in Portillo?  Bindings/skins would be more important?

post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 


Most likely about 12 days

4 says in Chillan

1 day Portillo

2 days Arpa

3 days Valle Nevado and its neighbors
 

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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

How long are you going for, a week?  The monsters would be fine 90% of the time?

 

Slack country in Portillo?  Bindings/skins would be more important?

post #11 of 17


 

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Originally Posted by David Hecht View Post


Most likely about 12 days

4 says in Chillan

1 day Portillo

2 days Arpa

3 days Valle Nevado and its neighbors
 


 

 

OK, I would bring a fatter pair with Dukes and skins.
 

post #12 of 17

Buy my 185 Nordica Blowers w/Dukes and Marker skins

post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the recommendations

post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 

OK,  now I am thinking about getting a pair that can be uses with skins and Touring bindings.  I started doing searches about Randonee skiing, and it looks like If I go with the Dukes or Fritche Freeride, I can pretty much use them for lift riding as well.  Now I am a little more confused about what ski to get.  Nordica Blower does sound like a fun ski, but is it too heavy for day touring?  How about the Nordica Zero?  K2 Obsethed and Rossignol S7 sound like great off piste skis with skiability on groomers to get back to the lift.  However would these work with at bindings and skins.  The K2 sidestash sound good for touring, but would the flat tail be as fun in powder?  Gotomas seem to have a great reputation and some rocker witth the new model  would thes be good for touring?

 

I know I just threw out a million rambling questions, but thanks for any advise or direction on where to look for more info

 

Thanks

post #15 of 17

Ton's of skis would work.  Personally, I prefer a flat tail.

 

  Lot's of people like Fritschi Freeride's, but they take a little getting used to and I don't like the way they ski alpine. I wouldn't take them to SA without ever skiing on them. 

 

The Duke is an alpine binding that can tour, they ski about the same as any other alpine binding. 

post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by David Hecht View Post

OK,  now I am thinking about getting a pair that can be uses with skins and Touring bindings.  I started doing searches about Randonee skiing, and it looks like If I go with the Dukes or Fritche Freeride, I can pretty much use them for lift riding as well.  Now I am a little more confused about what ski to get.  Nordica Blower does sound like a fun ski, but is it too heavy for day touring?  How about the Nordica Zero?  K2 Obsethed and Rossignol S7 sound like great off piste skis with skiability on groomers to get back to the lift.  However would these work with at bindings and skins.  The K2 sidestash sound good for touring, but would the flat tail be as fun in powder?  Gotomas seem to have a great reputation and some rocker witth the new model  would thes be good for touring?

 

I know I just threw out a million rambling questions, but thanks for any advise or direction on where to look for more info

 

Thanks


The Blower might be a touch heavy for all-day touring, but a heavy, damper ski will be appreciated on the way down.  Especially if you run into mixed conditions or heavy crud. 

 

FWIW, my Blowers have cropped tails for easier skin attachment, and my asking price for the entire setup is less than what you would pay for a new Gotama.

post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by David Hecht View Post

OK,  now I am thinking about getting a pair that can be uses with skins and Touring bindings...

 

I know I just threw out a million rambling questions, but thanks for any advise or direction on where to look for more info

You're beginning to sound like you have ADHD, to be exact. Look, if you're (now) serious, first search, here or at other sites like Wildsnow or TGR, to get good info on AT setups. Search functions are easy and indicate you're willing to do some of the work yourself. Educate yourself before you keep windmilling back with new sets of questions. Try to narrow down your focus: Do you mean actual touring, as in multi-day treks out of bounds? Camping? Huts? Or are you getting excited about Chilean sites that show sidebounds and some hiking and skinning that will end up back at the base? Have you ever done any of this before? Do you have AT boots? Do you have a beacon and backcountry training? If you haven't, learning to skin on a super vacation may not be the prime way to do things. Maybe just think about hiking sidebounds, renting some touring gear and joining a group if you really want to learn. 

 

Keep in mind that AT bindings also mean different boots, unless you plan to use your alpine's, which will make skinning somewhere between highly painful and just irrelevant. OTOH, a dedicated touring setup (which will NOT involve wide heavy alpine skis, and especially not tail rockers like the S7) will be unhappy on hardpacked or choopy groomed, and South America is not immune to ice or or crust. Plenty of wide-ish alpine skis (meaning 105-115) lend themselves to crossover bindings like the Duke, and will be a lot nicer in most sidebounds conditions than dedicated touring skis, but the tradeoff is weight. Which (again) makes a difference when you skin or hike any distance.

 

So you might begin all this again by asking yourself what your priorities are, and what you can give up. Be realistic about what you know, what you don't know, and what you will actually be likely to encounter. Eg, WHY are you now thinking of going AT? What does it do for you that conventional bindings and boots won't? And of all the skis you've just named or had named, how many of them actually fit your priorities? 

 


 

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