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Poll Results: Accuracy

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Totally Accurate
  • 10% of voters (3)
    Kinda Accurate
  • 46% of voters (13)
    Not even close
  • 25% of voters (7)
    Flawed
  • 17% of voters (5)
    I just wish I was skiing
28 Total Votes  
post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

Sorry I've been gone awhile, its been a busy month and a half. Anyways I ran across this graph today and it reminded me to check epic. How accurate do you think this graph is?funny-graphs-time-skiing.jpg

post #2 of 24

If you're skiing Vail, or waiting for the Tram @ the Bird on a pow day.

post #3 of 24

Going by my typical skiing lately, if you take the renting and drinking hot chocolate and change them to more time spent riding the lift and include putting on ski boots with buying lift tickets, it's not too far off.

post #4 of 24

Now you have motivated this newly returned desk jockey to conduct an experiment.  I will track time spent in various activities next year and attempt to develop an accurate chart.

post #5 of 24

The chart is BS. Pass holders usually have their own skis and don't rent. Pass holders only line up to buy the pass once for the whole season so it should not even be on the graph.

 

Most ski resorts in western Canada have little or no lift lines--except  Whistler where you line up and overpay for just about everything.

post #6 of 24

Generally I'm skiing by myself on a season pass, so no pass buying or waiting for others.  I ski on the weekdays, so no lift lines.  I have my own gear, and I don't stop in the lodge for anything other than a pee.  So it's boiled down to sitting on the lift and skiing.  I ski on mostly fixed grip lifts and I figure it's about 1 minute of skiing to every 4 or 5 minutes of lift riding, though this is very loose and depends on weather, snow conditions, and terrain.  So I ski, loosely, about 16 - 20% of the time.

 

When I ski with others I'm not sure.  Does standing around waiting for everyone to gather together and then discuss things count as skiing time?

post #7 of 24

Well, since you are actually buying a lift ticket it is only fair that you spend the largest part of the pie waiting for and riding the lift. .

 

/JK 

post #8 of 24

Here's a guy on a Snowboard stats for our hill this season.

TOTAL (113 days) 3426 turns 6,468,897 ft  

He must straight line every run.

My is 88 days @ 1.5 mil vert feet.

post #9 of 24

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This might be true if they buy the lift ticket, rent their skis, take two or three runs, then retire to the lodge for a couple drinks and leave.  If they were to ski all day the orange slice would certainly be larger than the wait in line for lift tickets purple slice and rental shop green slice.  Either that, or it takes them four hours to get a ticket and gear wherever they ski LOL!

post #10 of 24

 

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Originally Posted by powderhound95 View Post

If you're skiing Vail, or waiting for the Tram @ the Bird on a pow day.

 

I used to think that way about Vail until I started skiing with someone from Vail. You only have to stand in lines at Vail if you don't know how to ski Vail. Even on a 32" powder day there were never more than 2 minute waits on the XXX lift with oodles of powder until last chair.

 

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3:30 pm somewhere easy to get to on Vail, 4/7/10

post #11 of 24

Flawed. No option for: Sorry, I can't. I'm going skiing.

 

Skinned Rainier the other day. Took 5 1/2 hours going up and 32 minutes to go down. I count that as 6 hours skiing and 10 minutes for the celebratory beer.

post #12 of 24

I'm sure it applies to a weekend at Camelback.

 

Not to me where I ski.

 

We have high speed quads, and they supposedly take seven minutes to the top.  I've found I can ski all day and never actually sync up with friends, so apparently time down = time up for your average trip, although I am sure if someone was making an effort they'd be beating the lift. 

 

I ski midweek, so no lines.  I eat lunch early and grab the food that's already waiting, so no lines there.  So, eliminates the rentals, the waiting for the lift, the buying passes and doesn't leave much except the skiing and the riding.  I'm sure I'm still actually doing more sitting on the lift than actually moving down the hill, but the ratio is nothing like that chart.

post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I'm sure it applies to a weekend at Camelback.

 

Not to me where I ski.

 

We have high speed quads, and they supposedly take seven minutes to the top.  I've found I can ski all day and never actually sync up with friends, so apparently time down = time up for your average trip, although I am sure if someone was making an effort they'd be beating the lift. 

 

I ski midweek, so no lines.  I eat lunch early and grab the food that's already waiting, so no lines there.  So, eliminates the rentals, the waiting for the lift, the buying passes and doesn't leave much except the skiing and the riding.  I'm sure I'm still actually doing more sitting on the lift than actually moving down the hill, but the ratio is nothing like that chart.

Any black diamond skier, if skiing top to bottom non-stop, should easily be faster than a high speed lift. So that means more time riding the chair than skiing. However if you ski a few hundred feet and then stop and look around or talk to your buds then that is not really skiing, although you would be spending more time on the run than on the chair
 

post #14 of 24

That assumes your route follows the lift line all the time and you aren't hitting trees or going off piste.  Which is certainly NOT the case with most of the people I ski with. 

 

In fact, if you look at our map most of the stuff you want to ski involves big swoops off to one side or the other away from the main lift to hit these treed areas, plainly extending the route down the mountain considerably. 
 

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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post



Any black diamond skier, if skiing top to bottom non-stop, should easily be faster than a high speed lift. So that means more time riding the chair than skiing. However if you ski a few hundred feet and then stop and look around or talk to your buds then that is not really skiing, although you would be spending more time on the run than on the chair
 

post #15 of 24

No waiting for chair, no waiting to buy pass, no waiting for rental gear, much less time to drink coco.

 

I usually get 6 hours of skiing and sitting on chair per weekday 

post #16 of 24

 

it's very simple for me at squaw... usually about 66% on lift, 33% skiing. 

 

KT and headwall are about 7-8 minute rides and casual laps with friends take somewhere around 4 minutes give or take a minute.

 

if you're skiing hard you're spending 7-8 going up and 2-3 coming down.

 

a section of pie should probably be added for safety meetings as well...

 

post #17 of 24

Sibhusky your link to Big Sky is a very intriguing looking map. Until I went to Big Sky's web sight I had no idea that the mountain has over 4300' vertical and 400" of snow.

 

I plan on retiring in a year or so and then do some ski resort road trips, so Big Sky is now on my list.

 

Edit: I think I got Whitefish and Big Sky confused. Guess I'll have to visit both.

 

Sorry to hi jack the thread, but the graph is bogus anyway.


Edited by DanoT - 5/21/10 at 10:53pm
post #18 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by MastersRacer View Post

 

 

I used to think that way about Vail until I started skiing with someone from Vail. You only have to stand in lines at Vail if you don't know how to ski Vail. Even on a 32" powder day there were never more than 2 minute waits on the XXX lift with oodles of powder until last chair.

 

400x400px-aeb84e1e_Vail%20025.jpg

3:30 pm somewhere easy to get to on Vail, 4/7/10

 

vail has no lift lines on w powder days because its too flat.
 

post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by Diesel View Post



 

vail has no lift lines on w powder days because its too flat.
 


I really suck when it comes to steeps and powder. Thats why I have 5 pairs of powder skis. I keep buying new ones thinking they will help me but I don't get any better.

 

I don't want anything too challenging when I ski. Vail completely satisfies my level of suck. I'm glad I won't have to worry about getting in your way there. I'd feel terrible to messing up your line.

 

BTW where do you like to ski?

post #20 of 24

I represent the I hate Powder Club and you sound like a good candidate. We meet at different mountains during Epic Pow days to wollow in large amounts of fresh snow. Thank-you. Here's a shot from our last meeting.

janpow9.jpg

post #21 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by MastersRacer View Post




I really suck when it comes to steeps and powder. Thats why I have 5 pairs of powder skis. I keep buying new ones thinking they will help me but I don't get any better.

 

I don't want anything too challenging when I ski. Vail completely satisfies my level of suck. I'm glad I won't have to worry about getting in your way there. I'd feel terrible to messing up your line.

 

BTW where do you like to ski?


Jackson, Squaw and Crystal. Heck even sometimes Vail :).

post #22 of 24

Is this part of the "I Hate Powder Club's" powder eradication initiative?

post #23 of 24

I wonder why you thought it was Big Sky?  No, I'm from the non-glitz place with the cheap lift tickets and the conveniently located REAL town right close by.  However, we don't have a tram to take you to death-defying terrain.  If we actually get the predicted La Nina for next winter, come on by.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanoT View Post

Sibhusky your link to Big Sky is a very intriguing looking map. Until I went to Big Sky's web sight I had no idea that the mountain has over 4300' vertical and 400" of snow.

 

I plan on retiring in a year or so and then do some ski resort road trips, so Big Sky is now on my list.

 

Edit: I think I got Whitefish and Big Sky confused. Guess I'll have to visit both.

 

Sorry to hi jack the thread, but the graph is bogus anyway.

post #24 of 24
GRAPH Obviously a Christmas weekend Gaper Graph Flawed
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