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post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 

Hey guys, 


Is anyone interested in doing some MA for kicks? Here's me snowboarding down a blue run at Whistler beside the Solar Coaster chair. It was a total spring skiing day--melting granular slush. Once you've had a chance to look at it, maybe you can review what my thoughts are in the box below... all comments welcome--with one exception: not looking for feedback about line and rhythm as it wasn't a performance run--just kind of diddling around and trying to tip on edge. (I had no idea I was being filmed!) 


Video here:


My thoughts (highlight next paragraph to see):

Inclining too much to carve, especially in toeside. Should try to angulate... any drills?

My butt hangs out a bit on heelside turns sometimes. Press in more on shins or push hips forward.

Some turns weighted too far back on the board, especially earlier

Speed looks inconsistent based on turn shape--not much of a concern as I was trying more to get a carve feel on blues



post #2 of 7

Greetings Met,


The first thing I see is a lower body looseness/relaxation that we typically see in higher level riders. This lets a lot of good things happen. You've got a nice slight arch to your back on your toe side turns that is letting you get some nice high edge angles (you should be really happy with these). On your heel sides (after the first throw away turns), you have a nice sitting position with your back slightly tilted to toe side and your butt getting to the inside of the turn. Your weight is mostly centered, but you'll see at the end of you heel sides that your front leg is slightly straighter than your back leg (indicating that your weight is slightly back of center). You hold your hands low and loose, which is a good thing. A lot of great riders will hold their hands this low, but I prefer instructors to ride with their hands closer to waist high because this improves balance. You don't need it, but it will help your students. Your shoulders are mostly aligned with your board/stance, but you finish your toe side turns with your shoulders open to the board. This makes your heel side turns more difficult to initiate. If you look close you'll see more steering going on in the top half of your heel turns than in your toe turns. There's nothing wrong with steering going on in these turns, but this does tell me that you won't be able to do pure carving if you want to. For your level of experience, being this close is actually another good thing. But I want to get you feeling carving on your heel sides like you can feel it on your toe sides,


Most of what you need right now is mileage. The first two things I suggest for you are to clean up the shoulder alignment on the toe side finishes and to start initiating your turns with your front foot first (board twist). Something that may help with your shoulder alignment is to think about having your hands always cover the nose and tail of the board, My favorite drill for introducing board twist is to finish your turns with a pivot of the back foot downhill. This forces you to come out of the stall with a weight shift forward and a hard move with your front foot. This is a hard drill to learn on your own, but your coaches should have drills for this. An extra credit thing to work on is to deepen the sit on your heel sides a little more so you can get more ankle closing movement to create higher edge angles.


This is a fantastic improvement from the last clip. Keep going! The video from the downloading chair is pretty cool, but it makes it really hard to see what's going on. Stick with video shot from downhill looking uphill for the best MA results.

post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks Rusty! Appreciate the feedback. You get to take credit for most of the improvements!


When you say that on my toeside turns my shoulders are open to the board, does that mean the nose shoulder is twisted backwards down the hill? (open/closed always confuses me, whether on skis or a board)


Got it with the rear foot pivot drill. I will work it. Same with closing the ankle on heelside turns. Mileage on its own is such a nebulous thing idea to me--sometimes you want to just ski without putting much thought into it, but for someone who wants to actively do everything they can to improve, mileage by itself is panic-inducing! I guess the point of the mileage is to become aware of the sensations and push things a bit further. More edge. Smooth out the pivot. Recognize your shoulder position throughout the turn. Think about the source of your rotation. Count out your timing. That kind of thing. 


Again, very much enjoyed that feedback. Thanks!


Take care!

post #4 of 7

At the end of your toe side turns your front shoulder is pointing more down the hill than your board is. Freeze the clip in the middle where you are most visible and you'll see this easier. The most likely reason for this is you want to see where you're going. On a toe side turn, your back is facing down the hill. It's only natural to turn to see where you are going to go next. But it's more efficient to just turn the head/eyes vs turning the whole upper body.


Mileage is to get you "riding" instead of thinking all those thoughts while your are sliding downhill. You can't trust the movements until you can do them and a lot of people can't do them until they think all those thoughts. But it will be tough to get you to the next level until we can get rid of all those thoughts because we have all new thoughts to pollute your mind with. Right now your mind is already too full of thoughts. I can see the toe sides working for you. Make them bigger and shorter, faster and slower, steeper and flatter. Take what you've got and own it. the more you own your toe sides, the easier it will be to get your heel sides to the same level. Then we'll give you more stuff on the rent to own plan.

post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 

Awesome! I'll do all I can on this! Much appreciated. 

post #6 of 7

Your friend seemed to be down loading on the chair and while this happens quite a bit a WB because of low elevation on the lower mountain (especially this time of year), there seems to be more than enough snow  for the film maker to ride or ski down the mountain. OTOH making videos from a downloading chair gives a different perspective.

post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 

DanoT: true true. My friend was actually really tired and didn't want to ski the last run. this was just a nice surprise :)

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