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USSA Equipment Rules 2010-2011

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

The USSA Congress is now done. Anyone hear any word on equipment rules for 2010-2011?  Based on past years' experience, it will be a while before they are posted on the web of published in the summer update.

 

Richr

post #2 of 16

I think 27m is finally "in". Not sure about waist sizes yet, they may be delayed til next year.

post #3 of 16

2010-11 was supposed to be the start of 27M for men in GS (J2+) and 23M for women, following FIS rules. However, I highly doubt they enforce these, especially in the Midwest and East Coast where setting true 27M turns is unrealistic at many areas.

post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 

The 2010 summer update says that there will be no changes to the equipment rules...so it looks like at least one more year for 21 meters. I dont mind the rule itself, but I wish they would stop changing their minds at the last minute so we can make informed equipment purchases. This makes something like  four years in a row that they've changed their minds on the rules.

 

Richr

post #5 of 16

Thanks for the update. Guess I don't have to go shopping before December for GS boards.
 

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Originally Posted by Richr View Post

The 2010 summer update says that there will be no changes to the equipment rules...so it looks like at least one more year for 21 meters. I dont mind the rule itself, but I wish they would stop changing their minds at the last minute so we can make informed equipment purchases. This makes something like  four years in a row that they've changed their minds on the rules.

 

Richr

post #6 of 16

Are these rules you're discussing regarding junior racers or adults?  I just bought my first pair of race skis...FIS GS legal and was curious if most courses at most resorts conform to those specs or a different set of rules.  For the sake of my new gear...I hope it's 27m.

post #7 of 16

Depends on what you mean by "adults." If you mean Masters, there's very little in the way of equipment regulation at all: no radius or length requirements for non-speed events. How courses are typically set seems to vary from region to region (and perhaps from setter to setter), though I'd be surprised if anyone's setting Masters courses like Nor-Ams. The GS skis I see on Masters' feet include a lot of "cheater" (c. 17 m) sidecuts, though that's of course not universal.

 

The competitors in the other races (other than beer league or whatever) an adult can enter are almost all juniors (J1 & 2) ... at least until you get up to a level sufficiently high that - if you're at it - you should be answering that question rather than asking it.

post #8 of 16

The rules may be found here: http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/insidefis/fisgeneralrules/equipment.html and an easy to read matrix may be found here: http://www.ussa.org/magnoliaPublic/ussa/en/sports/alpine/rules.html

 

The rules are different for USSA and FIS races.

post #9 of 16

The wider waist is a good thing for guys like me with big feet.

post #10 of 16

Real simple.  There is no easy answer.  If the USSA book follows the FIS for J-2 and above you have to comply.

 

Now, what does it take to trigger that?  Easy, all you have to do is beat out another guy that is on a legal ski when you are on a "cheater" and the other coach has to lodge a protest.

 

I have no reason to read the rules anymore, but that is what happened a few years back.  Now, a lot of areas or regions were seeing little enforcement but we had a few .. er .. active parents and coaches that got a few kids booted from racing.

 

The starter is usually told they are supposed to make an effort to establish some level of compliance.  As a CYA, they always say something like this.  On the side, you may be told to put blinders on and let the coaches and parents act like pit bulls.

post #11 of 16

So if 27 is the new GS then logic dictates that 21 is the new "Cheater"

post #12 of 16

 then logic dictates that 21 is the new "Cheater"


No.

 

A 21m is legal in USSA scored GS competitions.  

 

Anything with a smaller radius number than 21m would be a "cheater" -  for boys or girls who are YOB 95 or older that are competing in a USSA scored GS competition.

 

FIS GS athletes will be responsible to comply with 27m radius for men / 23m for women.

post #13 of 16
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No.

 

A 21m is legal in USSA scored GS competitions.  

 

Anything with a smaller radius number than 21m would be a "cheater" -  for boys or girls who are YOB 95 or older that are competing in a USSA scored GS competition.

 

FIS GS athletes will be responsible to comply with 27m radius for men / 23m for women.


I'm 46 years old.  A 21 is a cheater for me. 

post #14 of 16
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I'm 46 years old.  A 21 is a cheater for me. 



You're racing FIS?

post #15 of 16
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You're racing FIS?


They won't let me,   Said something about my skis

post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by mattsteel5 View Post

 

Based on past years' experience, it will be a while before they are posted on the web of published in the summer update.


The FIS has empowered a new rules committee.  The Committee Chair, Micheal Huber, shared that one of their goals is to only ratify new rules no later than the spring meetings.

 

Ironically, look for new FIS precisions (which will appear as early as late next week) to allow nastar looking GS for International competitions (below Cont Cup).....

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