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Need accurate base and edge bevels; Help!

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  Hello Epic Ski Community.  I bought some skis that were demos this year and want to make sure they get proper angles set on the bases and edges.  I know they come from the factory with 0 degree base edge and 2 degree side edge. Oh, and they did seem grabby when I first used them. I'm thinking a .5 - 1 degree base and 3 degree edge would be better?  Who can help me properly achieve this?    Thanks.

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You will find more info than you can absorb by doing a search on base and edge angles.  My view of b&e angles is that the angles are set for the person and not necessarily to the ski. 1 & 3 is probably the best all around set up that works for most people.  If you are looking at specialty skiing on specialty skis (i.e. slalom racing) then that is a factor that needs to be considered.

 

The bigger challenge is finding a shop that will actually do what you ask; you'll ask for 1 & 3, the shop agrees and you get 1 & 2. 

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I didn't think any factory these days made skis with a 0 degree base edge, so what make is your demo ski?

 

I would love to have a tool that measures edge angles. Does anyone know of such a tool?

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It is SCC skis Brockway All Mountain; mens ski, 175 cm length, 134 mm tip, 94 mm waist, 122 mm tail, 17.5 m turn radius. Telling you this is probably pointless because SCC skis is a small family run business that makes skis by hand. I think there are a few reviews of their skis on this site but I'm sure 99.9 % of people have never heard of them.  I think I am going to try to get ahold of the guys who made the ski and find out for sure what the angles are. "If the bases are at 0; I'm going to ask them what the hell they were thinking."

 

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It is SCC skis Brockway All Mountain; mens ski, 175 cm length, 134 mm tip, 94 mm waist, 122 mm tail, 17.5 m turn radius. Telling you this is probably pointless because SCC skis is a small family run business that makes skis by hand. I think there are a few reviews of their skis on this site but I'm sure 99.9 % of people have never heard of them.  I think I am going to try to get ahold of the guys who made the ski and find out for sure what the angles are. "If the bases are at 0; I'm going to ask them what the hell they were thinking."

 


It sounds like they just set the bases at 0 so the buyer can put whatever base angle on it they want. 

 

Come on Washington Bears, just tell him where he can bring the skis to get a good 1 - 3 tune and leave it at that.

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GLem,

 

"It sounds like they just set the bases at 0 so the buyer can put whatever base angle on it they want."

 

 

What Ghost said.  Some race skis come with NO TUNE at all so you can set it for the racer/you. 

 

I'm sure the more experienced skiers/tuners here can add more but I think tunes that manufacturers put on (if any) are for the main stream customer.  Doing what the manufacturer did at most will get the ski set up for the main stream and not necessarily you. 

 

The base edge dictates when it will grab and the side edge dictates how far over you can go.  I think the side edge will also play into how well the edge holds on ice but there are other factors as well (torsional stiffness for one).

 

Whether you put a .5/3, 1/3 or a 1/2 or any other combo doesn't matter as long as YOU want the ski to react the way you tune it.  The ski will still perform the way it is meant to (glide/turn/stop) but will do it sooner or later (this assumes all other factors are correct - flat base, binding position and fitted boots).  A 16M turn radius ski with 1/2 or 1/3 is still a 16M turn radius ski.  A car with rack and pinion will go down the highway the same way a car with power steering does but the one with r and p feels to react quicker to your inputs.

 

Even if you don't send them to Mike at SkiMD, you'll find some great info at his site.

 

Welcome to the forum that obsesses about things as a side hobby to skiing

 

Ken

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Thanks alot guys. You have provided some good info for me; "appreciated". I don't know why I'm worried about this; I have several month's to get this done. It's not like I'm going to be doing any skiing in june anyway!  L&AirC was right on with that last sentance in his post. ha ha

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