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Arapahoe basin Summer Academy?

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Bob Barnes brought this up in the Summer Ski Camps thread.
Anyone interested? Come'on! Do ya' want to sit around all summer reading about how much fun those Aussies are having? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #2 of 29
Yes, yes, YES! If for any reason I CAN'T go to A-Basin with Bob, I'll assist the project in any way I'm asked. If I CAN go to A-Basin for the summer camp, SEE YOU THERE! . . . and I'll still be more than overjoyed to assist in support of the project.
post #3 of 29

I'm seriously considering Bob's offer towards the end of the month - after I finish my current project, a breakway would be nice ...as ya might imagine, it'll boil down to cost.

As to later in the summer, well, Emily's outa school, the boats in the water, inline skates in the back of the vehicle, mtn. bikes on the back of the vehicle....let the Aussie's have their fun, plenty to keep me entertained!

Carving down the hill on a warm sunny day on my Rossi's or slicing the wake to carve through the sheet of glass on each side on my Connely? Kinda like deciding between your two favorite ice creams!
post #4 of 29
I want to go, but can't this year. I have to let the shoulder heal this summer. (Doc says I might not even be able to go mountain biking this summer ). But next year, yes! What could I do to help? If this gets going this year, please tell the event coordinator to send me a message, as to what I could do from home to assist. A suggestion, why not bring both skis AND mountain bikes? Summit County, CO has some awesome mountain biking terrain. I also think there should be a contest just as in high school. Only instead of the prom king and queen, what should the contest be for? Any ideas?
post #5 of 29
Sounds GREAT to me!

Any estimates of cost?
post #6 of 29
Thread Starter 
you know, parents who were concerned about the "kids in school' issue for the winter academy, thiss may be worth looking into.
post #7 of 29
Lisamarie, as a loving parent and a paranoid lawyer, I know that kids can add a certain complexity both to the program and the legalities. However, if the kids take lessons from the mountain ski school, or free ski, no problem.
post #8 of 29
Originally posted by Lisamarie:
you know, parents who were concerned about the "kids in school' issue for the winter academy, thiss may be worth looking into.

That's a great point, that briefly crossed my mind. However, that would mean taking Lori to snow during the summer : ... and I know better than to even THINK of bringing that up

I hope it will open some doors for others though .... good luck!
post #9 of 29
As posted elsewhere, count me in. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #10 of 29
It sounds like a great idea and I am definetly interested and would come if the dates do not conflict with with when I will be going back to work. : eabrown
post #11 of 29
I'll be there, even if only for a day or two!
post #12 of 29
Thread Starter 
Ok Bob, talk to us! [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #13 of 29
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post #14 of 29
I don't have too much vacation time left to play with, but it is over a long weekend, and I can find a cheapie flight, I am definitely interested. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[ May 04, 2003, 09:38 AM: Message edited by: TracyCK ]
post #15 of 29
Wow--a great response! Here are a couple other thoughts to entice you all.

Lodging in Summit County--in fact, just about everything in Summit County--is the cheapest it gets right now. Other than the great skiing at Arapahoe, this is "mud season." A lot of the locals have left town for vacation or other summer destinations. And there aren't many visitors. There isn't much else to do around here but ski (not that you'd need more!)--although on a sunny day, it can be great for riding a road bike. It's too early for mountain biking, rafting, golf, tennis, and backpacking, but the fishing is starting to get good.

The best alternatives for lodging are probably the chain hotels (Four Points Sheraton, Super 8, Holiday Inn, Best Western, etc.) in Silverthorne, Dillon, and Frisco, some of the smaller private inns in Silverthorne, or even the resort at Keystone, just 5 miles down the road from Arapahoe (there's no lodging at The Basin, although camping out at "the beach" in the parking lot is very popular--it's a big party). Keystone may offer great deals, since the resort is all but deserted right now. There's also a little hostel-type place in Silverthorne called the Alpen Hutte. It's inexpensive dormitory-style lodging, but when it's slow, you'll probably get your own room. Lots of options!

Most of the local restaurants have 2-for-1 specials. Any ski gear still left in the shops is usually priced for clearance. And the skiing really is great!

Of course, it is NOT dry winter powder, even though there's up to 10" of snow in the forecast for today. The big spring storms are usually pretty heavy snow. On sunny days--that is, most days--you can expect the snow to start firm, softening nicely by mid- or late-morning, depending on the weather and the exposure. The afternoon snow is typically perfect spring corn, maybe even slush toward the bottom. If it's clear at night but overcast the next day, the snow may never soften. They'll do a good job grooming, but the off-piste stuff can be "interesting" when it doesn't soften.

At some point, as summer slowly takes over, they'll close the lower part of the mountain, requiring downloading on the Exhibition lift back to the base. At the rate the snow is going now, I don't see that happening until well into June, but a real warm spell could change it.

In short, you never quite know what to expect for spring conditions. It could be two feet of powder, or frozen coral and death cookies, or anything in between. Be prepared--it's all good! (Or at least, good for you.)

Anyway--I don't want anyone to have false expectations. Spring skiing at The Basin is truly legendary, and it can be fantastic. But it IS spring skiing.

Important Question:

Given the typically busy weekends and the deserted weekdays at Arapahoe, how many people here would prefer--and could make--a midweek program? The weekends can be fun, but it's a big party, with music, barbeques, frisbee, and long liftlines. If you want to SKI, midweek is much better. Let me know, and I'll make a proposal to the management at Arapahoe this week.

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #16 of 29
This is great idea, as there is nothing else to do in Summit County this time of year. SIGHN ME UP!!!!!
post #17 of 29
Hi Larry--Welcome to EpicSki!

And another top instructor joins the family. Furthermore, if anyone comes to Summit County and wants to go flyfishing, Larry's the guy to look up.

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #18 of 29
I'm up for mid-week, as long as it's toward the end of May or anytime in June.

Welcome, Larry!
post #19 of 29
I'll keep watching. Maybe?
post #20 of 29
Is there anyl beginner terrain available? I have a friend who may be interested but it's a bit of a long shot.
post #21 of 29
Hi Tog--

Yes, there is beginner terrain, as long as the lower mountain remains open. There is a little beginner area with a short chairlift called "Molly Hogan," and a nice long gentle green run off the Exhibition lift. The Molly Hogan area is the first to go, though, when the weather really gets warm--it turns into a small lake. But there is reasonable learning terrain at the top of Exhibition lift, with the option of skiing the green run down or downloading the lift.

Once the lower mountain closes, unfortunately, I don't think there will be a green run available. They recently replaced the old Lenawee chair with a new triple chair that goes a little higher up. The old chair had a mid-unloading station that accessed Dercum's Gulch, green all the way down. But the new chair takes you all the way to the top, and the easiest run is a groomed blue, unless there's another route that I'm not aware of.

I would expect the lower mountain to remain open through May and into early June, but you never know.

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #22 of 29

Late June preferably.
post #23 of 29

Any idea what the cost might be? Same coaches as before? If mid week, any dates in mind at this point?


post #24 of 29
Thread Starter 
My dilemna is this. As a freelancer, I don't get paid for vacation.
I'm leaving nest week for a week long conference in Santa Clara Ca., plus I already took a week for the Utah academy. This summer, we will be having huge budget cuts in the fitness industry. While this leaves me with more free time on my hands, it also means that when I do have work, i better work.
Also, i am teaching a summer course, that meets on tues. and wed. If we did decide on midweek, would thurs and fir be possible?
post #25 of 29

Just a little encouragement about going to A-Basin for the summer academy. I was up at Loveland for closing day today which is over the pass from A-Basin and it was snowing most of the day. I heard that it was also snowing at A-Basin. It was great skiing, with fresh powder, a little heavy but heavenly. It is just fantastic to be in a winter wonderland and then come back towards Denver and see the aspens turning green. Get the shorts out and go for a bike ride all in one day. Those up in the areas around A-basin don't even have to drive that far, as I have a little over an hour drive, but am just psyched for the priviledge. In conclusion, to have a summer academy at A-basin just keeps getting better, especially if the snow keeps falling. eabrown [img]tongue.gif[/img] :
post #26 of 29
I could probably make it out sometime in early June, depending on flight availability. Would use Wednesday as a travel day and ski Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, and head home on Sunday. If anybody wants to hook up with me even if the summer camp doesn't come together, let me know. Airfares are cheap right now. If somebody's interested, I might have some flexibility in the dates if I know far enough in advance.
post #27 of 29
All right gang--time's a-wasting! We'd better get organized if we're going to pull this off. I will present the idea to Arapahoe Basin on Tuesday--day after tomorrow--to see if they'll even allow us to do an EpicSki Academy there.

The more I know, the easier it will be to present our proposal. We need to decide WHEN, HOW MANY DAYS, and whether MIDWEEK would work for people.

My recommendation would be to go the last week of May, or the first week of June, for 3 or 4 days, midweek. The first EpicSki Academy was 4 days long, and most people found that to be a very good length of time for really accomplishing something on skis. Weekends can still be very busy at Arapahoe, especially if it's good weather and the snow holds up, but midweek is like a ghost town. So I recommend midweek, if at all possible. And those two weeks will give us enough time to arrange everything, allow everyone time to make your travel plans, and still be early enough to count on decent snow.

But my recommendations mean nothing if they don't work for anyone! So--I've posted a poll HERE. If you are seriously interested in attending a spring Academy or MiniAcademy, please take a moment right away to take this poll.

By the way, we've already gotten commitments from Weems Westfeldt and Tom Burch, as well as myself, to coach this event, if it happens. I'm expecting Ric (VailSnoPro) to be available too, but he hasn't been able to commit yet. If he can make it, I'll edit this post to reflect that. We'll keep the average group size to 5 or less, as in the first EpicSki Academy, so we're looking at room for only 15, or maybe 20, participants with these coaches.

Please fill out the poll, and wax your skis. It's not time to hang them up for the summer quite yet!

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #28 of 29
As much as I would normally jump at this opportunity, I have a week vacation already planned for late May. It is impossible for me to take off any more time.
As Bob Barnes said lodging is really cheap at this time of year. A friend of mine rents his 1 bed 2 bath for 60.00 a night 5 night min, Keystone, http://www.askicondo.com.
There are many similar deals around. check out www.summitnet.com If you all share it can easily be around 15.00 pp per night. Boy I wish I could attend.
post #29 of 29
Thread Starter 
Kima, since you are in the general area, would having it over a weekend in June make it more feasible? I suspect many people may be in the smae boat as you, having used up vaction days. I realize its not the best time, but perhaps its better than nothing.
Bob, do you have any idea of what you would like the minimum amount of particpants to be?
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