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# How Much Did You Save?

The lifts quit turning yesterday so I sat down this morning and did a little math.  I took the days I skied and figured out how much money I had saved by buying season passes.  I had a pass at Mt. Baker and a weekday pass at Stevens Pass.  Baker has different ticket costs depending on whether it is a weekday or weekend but luckily I had my calendar that I kept track of my ski days, so it was easy to figure.  I just added up the days and multiplied that number by the adult single day ticket price for that day/ski area.  My savings came out to \$1000 between the two areas, give or take a couple of bucks (I didn't have exact sales tax figures for Stevens so I had to guess).

I'll bet that there are some Bears out there that saved a whole bunch more than me.  So, how much did you save on tickets this year by buying a pass?  You don't have to be exact.
I skied Stevens a ton. I'm pretty sure I came out well below ten bucks a day for lift service... That makes for a happy winter!
Mammoth is about \$80+ a day and with about 30 days in my pass was \$20 a day. So ya, I saved a boat load.
Over \$3000  so far and I have another month to use lifts. Last season I saved about \$7000
80 days-\$800=\$10/day.
Did you really save that much?  Or, did you ski more than you would have without a pass?  In other words, would you have really spent that much money and skied that many days if you didn't have a pass?

If you work at the resort can you tack on the amount you got paid to ski too?.  Say I worked 120 days and skied free at \$50.00 per day for a lift ticket I saved \$6000.00, but I also got paid \$100 per day so add \$12,000 and I saved \$18,000
My pass cost \$690 & I used it 25 days which comes out to \$27.60 a day. The regular ticket price at the area was \$77. So I saved almost \$50 a day or \$1235 if you figure in the 60 cents. I'm not happy though because I spent an extra \$250 + tax for a pass that was good on weekends, I skied one weekend day all year on the pass.

Three years ago, before the new owners, the same pass cost \$349 & was good at 5 different ski areas throughout NE wheras now it's only good at 2 that are right next to eachother.. God I miss ASC.
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Originally Posted by steamboat1

God I miss ASC.

I remember when people were blaming them for the cost of passes.... ha ha ha!
Can't believe I just figured all this out (I was tired of pulling weeds): \$399 for my Copper pass with Steamboat days on it ... 20 days at Copper, 3 at Steamboat ... I don't even know what the day rate was at Copper. Assuming \$90, that's \$17 per day.

I spent \$566 for the other 16 days I skied at five other mountains, among other passes/tickets/comps/coupons, averaging out to \$35 a day.

Sooooo ... a grand total of \$25 per day, just like the old days. Assuming \$90 tickets, I saved almost \$3,000! (I need to go shopping!)
My pass cost me the price of gas driving to and from the mountain to work it off last fall. Around \$80. I skied 102 days at \$39/day, so I "saved" around \$3900.
I don't figure the FULL single pass, because only an IDIOT would pay that price, you can buy them cheaper at Costco.  So I used the price a smart person would pay who knew what they were doing, i.e., \$40 a day.

This year I saved \$1,585.

Over the years of buying season passes, I've saved an aggregate of \$19,581.55.
We bought multi-day passes the past two years and had days remaining on both tickets this year and one of the two last year. We came out ahead in 08-09 and about even in 09-10. I've already bought us two full season passes for next year - first time ever at age 63 - as a commitment to skiing more next year. Hope it works out. I'm just excited to get one of those fancy plastic passes with my picture on it!

This is really a sore subject with those of us who can only ski as tourists. Season passes are frequently priced at just a little over what it costs a guy like me to take two extended (5-7 day) ski vacations. We're never close to the COSTCO, we eat most of our meals OUT, we pay full retail during the season for all our gear bought close to the mountain and then some (present company excluded) have the nerve to complain about their unfortunate life in ski country.
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Originally Posted by steveturner
....I'm just excited to get one of those fancy plastic passes with my picture on it!

This is really a sore subject with those of us who can only ski as tourists. ...

My best ski buddy moved with her family to Texas last summer .. .they returned to ski with us for a few days in March, and it was irritating to them, to say the least, to have to buy actual lift tickets. The youngest son, who's 10, had no concept of "lift ticket." He kept telling his mom, But I still have my pass! It's on my coat! (Didn't really have the full concept of "season pass" either)
At \$550 for the Taos Millennium, I saved just over \$3,000 if you include the costs of skiing the exchange days at JH, T-Ride, and Durango, so that works out to just under \$10/ day of skiing.  I'll pick up the NM card next year that gives me 10 days at various smaller resorts for a \$100 or \$120 (I forget the exact amount) donation to charity so that will let me mix it up a bit as well.
Gotta complain about something...  I've always said no one wants to hear about how perfect and wonderful your vacation is, they like stories about lost luggage, bad meals, crazy cab drivers, language difficulties, etc. FAR more.  If I sat on the chair and told you how I was living in heaven, would you want to hear it?

....Plus the local on the other end of the chair wouldn't speak to me the rest of the season!

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Originally Posted by steveturner

and then some (present company excluded) have the nerve to complain about their unfortunate life in ski country.
Taos Millenium pass=575.00

Skied Telluride free 3x@92(retail).....276.
Purgatory 2x...................................130.
Taos 18 times...............................1242.
Total............................................1648.

Pass cost.......................................575.

Net savings...................................1073.

Skied for 25/day.

Been meaning to figure that out, thanks.
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Originally Posted by SkiVet

At \$550 for the Taos Millennium, I saved just over \$3,000 if you include the costs of skiing the exchange days at JH, T-Ride, and Durango, so that works out to just under \$10/ day of skiing.  I'll pick up the NM card next year that gives me 10 days at various smaller resorts for a \$100 or \$120 (I forget the exact amount) donation to charity so that will let me mix it up a bit as well.
What is this New Mexico card that you are referring too? I am interested.
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Originally Posted by sibhusky

I don't figure the FULL single pass, because only an IDIOT would pay that price, you can buy them cheaper at Costco.  So I used the price a smart person would pay who knew what they were doing, i.e., \$40 a day.

This year I saved \$1,585.

Over the years of buying season passes, I've saved an aggregate of \$19,581.55.

Good for you!

I didn't get a pass. I bought a Descent jacket instead. ;) I paid:

\$160 for the jacket
\$120 for the Salt Lake City Superpass
\$200 for 5 days at Telluride
\$50 for Snowbasin
\$20 for Bellearye on one of their super Friday
\$45 at Waterville Valley because I screwed up
----
= \$600

I skied 25 days. So that's what... \$24/day!

But I spend a ton on travel. :-( (and saw/ski a bunch of places).
Actually I think you may have misunderstood what I meant.  I meant I didn't use the single day rate when I figured what I saved buying a season pass.  The single day rate is \$61.  I used \$40, not \$61 when I figured my savings.  I DID buy a season pass @\$535, skied 57 days.  I could have called that saving \$2942, but my point is that would be a false savings when in fact no one would pay that much in reality.  If they didn't shell out for a season pass, they'd toddle down to Costco and get their tickets at \$40 a day.  And, living where I live, to ski elsewhere would be far too much driving, the next nearest place worth getting to is Fernie.  Why drive there (2 hours) when I live 16 minutes from my own area?  I wouldn't be bored of the 3000 acres we have if there had been decent snow this year.

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Originally Posted by at_nyc

Good for you!

I didn't get a pass. I bought a Descent jacket instead. ;) I paid:

\$160 for the jacket
\$120 for the Salt Lake City Superpass
\$200 for 5 days at Telluride
\$50 for Snowbasin
\$20 for Bellearye on one of their super Friday
\$45 at Waterville Valley because I screwed up
----
= \$600

I skied 25 days. So that's what... \$24/day!

But I spend a ton on travel. :-( (and saw/ski a bunch of places).
You can save a bunch more (and lose weight) if you BC, XC or skate ski....it's closer to zero.

These discussions are akin to touting MPG consumption rate of your new ride that you drive a bazillion miles versus total GPY (gallons per year) consumed. The lift pass is merely one line item on the real cost list of pursuing our passion. But.....it never hurts to minimize the relative cost per outing by getting out the door more often. The season or multi-day pass does increase the tendency to make more turns.

Then there is an endorphin infused physical and mental health benefit. Almost any day on skis and snow is almost always better than any day working.
Oh I forgot to mention \$22 a night lodging (including breakfast)...

No Costco discounts out my way.
Yes, I did save that much. No, I don't work at the hill or it wouldn't be counted d'uh. If I didn't have a pass of course I wouldn't have spent that much, which is why I have a pass. I would still get the same amount of skiing in, only it would be all back country....which is why my savings was lower this season...more back country days. It's great how much skiing you can get in when you put it at the top of the priority list. IF all of my days this season were all resort, and I paid for each day without a pass, I would have spent well over \$9000 so far, with another month to go. Yes, I do ski that much.

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Originally Posted by crgildart

Did you really save that much?  Or, did you ski more than you would have without a pass?  In other words, would you have really spent that much money and skied that many days if you didn't have a pass?

If you work at the resort can you tack on the amount you got paid to ski too?.  Say I worked 120 days and skied free at \$50.00 per day for a lift ticket I saved \$6000.00, but I also got paid \$100 per day so add \$12,000 and I saved \$18,000

Actually, I guess if you look at it THAT way, I didn't save that money, because I wouldn't have spent it, because I don't have that much money to spend on skiing.  (the "saved" \$1585).  I can barely afford the season pass.  So, I guess the answer is I skied WAY more days than I would have without getting the pass.  Because I don't have any more money to spend on skiing....  If I divide the pass price by the cheapest daily price, then, I got in 43 "bonus days".

....Although, actually, I'm still reeling from paying last year's pass and locker off....and now it's time to pay for the upcoming season....
An Epic Pass ran, I believe, \$569
Used it 28 days so \$20.32 per day.
Window price of \$92.00 X 28 days- \$2,576.00
Savings of \$2,0007.00
Now if I could just arrange free air fare.
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Originally Posted by sibhusky

Actually, I guess if you look at it THAT way, I didn't save that money, because I wouldn't have spent it, because I don't have that much money to spend on skiing.  (the "saved" \$1585).  I can barely afford the season pass.  So, I guess the answer is I skied WAY more days than I would have without getting the pass.  Because I don't have any more money to spend on skiing....  If I divide the pass price by the cheapest daily price, then, I got in 43 "bonus days".

I get your point quite well. That's why I didn't calculate how much I "saved". Only how much I spend per day.

Now, some may want to calculate how much that many days in such and such resort would have cost, at the window and/or with some commonly known saving schemes.

Few of us on Epic pay window price for our lift tickets. But the routes we come up for discount varies widely.

As I mentioned earlier, although I didn't pay that much per day on lift tickets, I spend way more on travel expense! I enjoy going to new/different mountain, and some of side trip with the travel too. But from a pure skiing point of view, it's not the most economical way of getting some turns in.
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Originally Posted by wolfelot

What is this New Mexico card that you are referring too? I am interested.

Call Sports Systems in Albuquerque in the fall- they sell them, as do numerous other stores and ski events (Ski Expo NM, ski swap, etc.)
I think 2 different punch cards are available, one that benefits Breast Cancer, the other American Lung Assoc.   At just over \$100, they include 10 days total skiing:  1 day at most NM resorts (Taos, Angel Fire, Red River, Sippapu, Pajarito, Ski Apache), a couple CO resorts (I think A-Basin, possibly Mammoth?) and discounts at Ski Santa Fe and Sandia.

The resorts vary from year to year, some of the CO resorts are different on the different cards, and some have blackout dates.  Just read the fine print.   It's a pretty good deal if you just want to have a couple of days at the smaller resorts, get caught in town on a powder day, or if you're a Taos season pass holder (like me) who likes to mix it up from time to time.    Most are within a couple hours driving of Santa Fe/ Albuquerque metro area.  I don't know anyone who has actually driven down to Ruodoso, (Ski Apache) though, unless they've got friends in Texas they're trying to meet up with.  (And I'm not starting that debate in this thread...)

If you're not local, and can't justify that many different resorts, a website called saveonskiing.com usually has 2 for 1 tickets at the little NM resorts, so good to get if you're planning on going there anyway.  My 0.02 is that if you're going to TRAVEL here to ski, then just go to Taos- just purchase the tickets at REI on your way out of Albuquerque/ Santa Fe and it's much cheaper.
Thanks for all the great information SkiVet! I'll keep my eyes open for those cards later in the fall.
I did the math. Turns out I paid \$7.31 per day to ski.

Ironic when I consider that a beer and a burger runs about \$13 at my local hill.

Funny.  The OP question struck me in the way a miles per gallon v. gallons per mile perspective does.  Opportunity cost aside; a ski pass is valued altogether more than whatever is “saved” over the cost of daily window rates and as such we haven’t looked at “what if” pricing for years.   Skiing is considered a necessity in this house and if you’re not using a pass you’re throwing away money which is an altogether different consideration than “saving” with the CFO.  That said, I have recently impressed the CFO [who is Betsy btw also holding titles of COO, President, CEO and Chairman of the Board] by bagging lunch, creative free parking strategies and bringing up my Starbucks Via instead of purchasing coffee on mountain.  What savings you ask?  Why thousand\$  each day!  And I have been given an extra \$2.00 bonus for my additional contribution to the savings plan along with a "job well done"

Mt Ashland Season pass \$300

54 days \$44 .....2376.

Pass cost.......................................300.

Net savings...................................2076.

I already got my pass for next year, while people at Mammoth are whining about their prices going up, next years pass is only 199 :)

Now something to whine about...  My ski resort has great snow right now, it is 27 and snowing, but they closed a week ago :(

Snapshot of the base just now :(
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