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8th Annual Radar Speed Trap Day, OR, 80MPH at the Bird ! ! !

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Just another day on the hill. Ho-hum. If you've ever been clocked at high speed you knew it was just a matter of time before someone would be able to quantify what you've known all along; It's possible to friggin ski fast. 

Downhillers and GSer's in speed suits, with custom skis and magic wax concoctions, can reach into the 80's and sometimes 90's. Conventional wisdom would say a recreational skier in baggy clothes, wearing stock, fat skis, would not. Simply unpossible. 

Well, conventional wisdom has once again been snubbed today with a Bushnell radar-verified reading of 80MPH on Anderson's. Stroupskier is DA MANG ! ! 

I was aiming the gun at him and watching the reading go up and up. I had seen a 78 and we were stoked enough about that, but when I later checked the memory for highest speed attained it displayed 80 !! Stroup had finally proven what 7 previous years of ANNUAL RADAR SPEED TRAP DAY has been sorta trying to achieve (well, as an incidental bonus to the real purpose of just having fun anyways).

We did try another run to see if he could do better and got a reading of 79 (127kph), which reaffirmed the gun was working fine but also told us the snow surface had slowed slightly with the sun exposure.

So, boys and girls, the next time you're in a discussion about whether or not a weekend warrior ever comes close to experiencing Olympic speeds, the answer is a resounding, verified, witnessed, inarguable, unequivocal, and documented; YES.
post #2 of 17
 Now throw some gates at him and see what happens.
post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by Ske-Bum View Post

 Now throw some gates at him and see what happens.

Finally, someone else who sees the logic that you CAN ski a DH faster without the need to make those gates.   The fenced off course is usually better prepared and lets you take blind airs with a clear conscience, but it is not faster.
post #4 of 17
Hate to piss in your Cheerios, but what you are talking about is isn't GS or DH. You're talking 'Speed Skiing', which was briefly an Olympic event, and the big boys go 150+ (record stands at 156 mph)... so no, you aren't talking 'Olympic Speed', your talking fast but no big deal.
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 Now throw some gates at him and see what happens.

that was never the point of doing this in the first place. 
post #6 of 17
I think the cherios are still good.  The point was that GS/DH speeds were attainable by ordinary folk.  Given that speed skiers hit 150+, there is no point in denying that 60 is easy-peasy.
post #7 of 17
Yeah, sure... whatever Ghost.

By that logic I've gone at Top Fuel dragster speeds. I was sitting in the economy class section of a commercial airplane... but I was going over 300 mph, baby!!!
post #8 of 17
I hope you weren't drinking.

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Yeah, sure... whatever Ghost.

By that logic I've gone at Top Fuel dragster speeds. I was sitting in the economy class section of a commercial airplane... but I was going over 300 mph, baby!!!
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Yeah, sure... whatever Ghost.

By that logic I've gone at Top Fuel dragster speeds. I was sitting in the economy class section of a commercial airplane... but I was going over 300 mph, baby!!!

It's all relative.   300 mph doesn't feel fast in a jumbo.  110 mph doesn't feel fast on a 750 Interceptor on the back concession (feels plenty fast bouncing through the potholes on your back though),   60 mph feels fast on SL on a ski hill, but just getting going on DH/SG skis.   Only point made was that 60+ mph was not an unattainable speed available only to people on closed DH courses wearing skin-tight suites with FIS points.
post #11 of 17
Then what is the point??  That someone can point a pair of skis and go 80 on a groomer without having to turn?? Is that the point?? Sorry, if that is the point I'm not impressed, maybe you are. 
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that was never the point of doing this in the first place. 
post #12 of 17
 Ske-Bum - every year there are threads with people stating that it is impossible for a recreational skier to get over  a speed of 50 mph or 60 mph or whatever other arbitrary number is chosen that day. That's the point. Probably also to have fun.
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 Ske-Bum - every year there are threads with people stating that it is impossible for a recreational skier to get over  a speed of 50 mph or 60 mph or whatever other arbitrary number is chosen that day. That's the point. Probably also to have fun.
This is one of the threads Epic is referring to: http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/39561/80mph-on-175-punter-boards-possible
The link provides a fascinating study of otherwise rational people arguing expansively over something they ultimately know nothing about (why does that happen so much in life?).
These types of threads are heavy on theory and mathematical formulas proving how recreational skiers simply cannot reach such speeds.
Thankfully, some of us are never interested in hearing how we can't do something. :-)
post #14 of 17

I've never been measured on skis but I did get clocked on my snowboard.  I was in Davos in 2007 and found a start shack with no wand and a straight down course with no gates.  About two thirds of the way down the course they had mounted two electric eyes 10 meters apart (barely visible - see arrows).  When you crossed the finish line they displayed your speed in kph.  I've done a lot of dumb things in my 60+ plus years but riding a snowboard (admittedly a Volkl GS race board) at 88 kph (55 mph) ranks right up there.

 

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post #15 of 17

At Vail a few years ago there was a lift employee skiing down at the end of the day at some 50 or 60 mph who collided with another skier and killed him. The case resulted in a criminal trial and was well covered in the press. This shows two things: 1) that you can ski down a normal trail in normal dress at a high rate of speed and 2) it is very unwise and unsafe to reach those speeds on anything other than a closed course.

post #16 of 17

Ease up. Sounds like a blast. I'm guessing it's that big groomer that they mow straight down off the Road to Provo at the very top of the resort. It's steep, above treeline, fast as sh##t and there's nobody ever  on it. Hell, there's nobody at Bird in mid may except the guys/girls who just never quit. They know what they're doing. I'm sure they had the run to themselves. No gapers were harmed in the making of this speed extravaganza....    

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At Vail a few years ago there was a lift employee skiing down at the end of the day at some 50 or 60 mph who collided with another skier and killed him. The case resulted in a criminal trial and was well covered in the press. This shows two things: 1) that you can ski down a normal trail in normal dress at a high rate of speed and 2) it is very unwise and unsafe to reach those speeds on anything other than a closed course.

Well, if you can't avoid skiers ahead of you then you shouldn't be skiing that fast, but what if you can?
 

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