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2010 Dynastar Pro Rider

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Just a quick mini-review since this ski is very familiar to a lot of people here.  I always wanted to get on it, and finally got a chance this weekend (thanks to Tyler and Jim).  Conditions- frozen everywhere in the morning, softening up a little bit by midday, some good corn snow off-piste.  I am 6'/187lb, so I was on 184 length.  Typical Legend ski- straight sidecut (27m), wood-metal construction, full vertical sidewall, medium-firm flex, pretty even throughout the ski; sweet graphics (exciting but not juvenile).   The tip has a long gradual rise that makes the running surface only a tad longer than my other 178 Dynastars.  My boots have a strange relationship with Look rental bindings, so I on that ski ended up about 2mm in front of the manufacturer's line.  

Impressions: This is the Dynastar that I like- smooth, damp, but still with excellent snow feel.  Likes to go fast, the faster you go, the smoother the ski feels.  Turns quite easy for a 100mm ski, but small camber and long sidecut does not make for an exciting carver. However, it is infinitely better than 115mm Dynastar skis that I tried (HT and PR115); those only tolerate groomers, ProRider actually likes them, I was having good fun making fast GS turns on a groomer.   Where this ski really shines is in mixed snow off-trail.  It was almost effortless in corn snow, solid in crud, and extremely confident is a steep frozen chute that I decided to do to give the ski a workout.  A variety of turn shapes is not a problem, the ski does not hand up or get deflected anywhere.  Very confident ride.  The sweet spot is surprisingly large, the ski does not really kick your b&tt for mistakes, but there is a definite preference and a sizeable reward for staying in front.   On a fairly steep wide-open early morning groomer, I tried a centered stance and the ski started to slip and chatter, shifting the weight forward and skiing more aggressively quieted  them down right away.  As expected, the LPR stinks in frozen bumps, too stiff and too wide for them (and for my technique); I didn't get to try the soft bumps. 

Verdict:  a real Legend a daily driver for a charging expert or any strong skier who spends a lot of time off-trail.

P.S. A  friend who is a very strong skier used these as his powder skis this year.  They work just fine for him, but I think they make a lot more sense as a daily driver ski, I think they are not wide enough and too stiff for real powder skiing. 

 

 
Edited by alexzn - 4/13/10 at 12:53am
post #2 of 13
Nice review..

This is what a lot of people here and on TGR have been saying for years...a real classic expert ski, and no real replacement in the Dynastar lineup....BOO!
post #3 of 13
I agree entirely - got my LPRs mid season this year and still looking for something at Squaw that they can't handle, swapped them out for Watea 94s and was way happier on icy mornings or frozen chutes.
post #4 of 13
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 Well, thanks to the folks at the StartHaus, I now own a brand new-pair of the 184 LPRs.  Gotta put your money where your mouth is.    
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 Well, thanks to the folks at the StartHaus, I now own a brand new-pair of the 184 LPRs.  Gotta put your money where your mouth is.    


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alexn, anyone, ANY further thoughts on these after some more hill time?  ok for steeper, softish bumps ???

wind buff ??? steepish groomers (hate that Mammoth now grooms Cornice and Scotty's...)

chunk buster ???

Western BigHill Cement Runner  or POW hound???

184 cm for oldish phart with chicken legs??? will I need to consult physician if 'stiffness' persists for more than 4 hrs. ???  eek.gif

post #6 of 13

I have a pair that have been rebadged as184 Corupt Xrays,  mounted at 305 with black and gold Rossi FKS.  Mint condition, maybe 2 days on them.

$450/shipped.

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Ufff... I would not use the LPR as a bump ski, this is probably the only thing where mine suck.  This ski is a true all-mountain charger, it will be great in all terrain you described except the bumps.  As far as the size goes, I don't know your height and weight, so cannot say much.   Definitely not a ski for a powder day, it will be OK there, but you will really want a very different ski for a deep day. 

 

Alex

 

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bump

alexn, anyone, ANY further thoughts on these after some more hill time?  ok for steeper, softish bumps ???

wind buff ??? steepish groomers (hate that Mammoth now grooms Cornice and Scotty's...)

chunk buster ???

Western BigHill Cement Runner  or POW hound???

184 cm for oldish phart with chicken legs??? will I need to consult physician if 'stiffness' persists for more than 4 hrs. ???  eek.gif

post #8 of 13
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Ufff... I would not use the LPR as a bump ski, this is probably the only thing where mine suck.  This ski is a true all-mountain charger, it will be great in all terrain you described except the bumps.  As far as the size goes, I don't know your height and weight, so cannot say much.   Definitely not a ski for a powder day, it will be OK there, but you will really want a very different ski for a deep day. 

 

Alex


sorry,

Duh,  course knowing my weight and height is important - senior moment. Don;t know why I left that out... 165-68ish lbs  (tough winter for conditioning...) 5' 10.5", accustomed to old school skis, camber not a problem.

Read so many commentsw about skis with no reference to the skier's weight, there's no context for any of those comments...

...can;t believe I left that out...

 

My search: one ski quiver - something a little longer than the 170 - 180 cm. Finding most skis under 180 which have enough stuff to handle when skied energetically also have stiffer midsections.

I'm looking for... more even flex, 184-186 cm, good crud buster, decent for softer bumps, great edge hold, 90-99 width with middlin sidecut. POW, I've figured that, at best, 8% of my current ski time actually has more than boot high snow, and since anything is better than a 205cm straight, in powder; I'd be 'good' with just about anything...

currently 90% of my ski time is at Mammoth - short, steep pitches ,  large open crud fields ,  wide open groomers  ,  a few narrow chutes  ,  some bumps to break up groomer disinterest.

 

if not a Pro Rider... then maybe Sultan 94 ...????

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I would be totally hesitant to recommend the 184 for you with your weight.  I have 25 lb on you and an extra inch of height, and I find the 184 plenty of ski to say the least.   I'd try to find the 176 LPR if I were in your shoes.  That should be plenty of ski.

 

Sultan 94 will also do, but it is a different feeling ski, easier and turnier, but not as stable and damp.  The upcoming next year ProRider 105 also looks promising, but it is a different geometry ski (rocker, etc); I also have not hear anything about how it skis. 

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What size would you think for someone who's 5'11, 140lbs? My main ski right now is the 186 Lhasa Pow, but I'm looking for an everyday Euro ski for next season since I'll be living in Grenoble. It won't be a powder ski, so I'm thinking shorter may be better for carving and tight chutes, but I'm worried about losing stability at speed.

post #11 of 13

At your 140lb weight the 176 length will be more than stable, and would work well all over except deep powder where you have the Lhasas.

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I would be totally hesitant to recommend the 184 for you with your weight.  I have 25 lb on you and an extra inch of height, and I find the 184 plenty of ski to say the least.   I'd try to find the 176 LPR if I were in your shoes.  That should be plenty of ski.

 

Sultan 94 will also do, but it is a different feeling ski, easier and turnier, but not as stable and damp.  The upcoming next year ProRider 105 also looks promising, but it is a different geometry ski (rocker, etc); I also have not hear anything about how it skis. 


Ok, sounds like the LPR is just a variation of my 176 Cold Heats. Great Skis, but If I'm gonna go wider, I'm also gonna go longer.

I'd like to find a longer ski which is gonna smooth out the ride some...

maybe something like a Mojo/John 94 ???

Gonna try out some options this weekend... will report back...

 

post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 
LPR is unquestionably more ski than John 94. I own both at the moment.
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