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Need tips on making better POV movies

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I recently got a helmet cam (VHoldr Contour HD) and have made a couple movies, but I've realized how little I know about making movies. I need some tips!

Some of the things I learned right away:
* Stay right on someone's tail when doing a follow cam. If they get more than 20 ft away, they turn into a speck on the wide-angle lens.
* Angle the camera up a tad to get more scene. What appeared to me as a "level" mount just had snow and ski tips.
* Shoot plenty of "B roll" to insert between scenes. Otherwise, cuts from "in motion" skiing to "in motion" skiing are jarring.
* Don't stop, keep skiing. Runs are more impressive top-to-bottom without edits.
* 1080p HD won't play back on my computer without dropping a bunch of frames.
* Pull that goggle strap tight or camera may list to one side.

I need ideas for B-roll shots, transitions (other than "fade"), etc. Folks say "try to tell a story", but that's a struggle.

What tips/suggestions do you have for making better helmet cam movies?

Thanks!
post #2 of 10
just wondering where you mounted side or top?  I just received my tachyon camera and I am heading to snowbird next week...so tips would be great.
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
I used the goggle strap mount. Seems to work OK. I've seen some POV shots using the top-of-helmet mount GoPro and I think that's probably a better perspective.

I would strongly recommend trying it out in your living room first! Figure out the mount, how to start/stop recording with gloves on, etc. 
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
Do people prefer YouTube POV ski videos with music or original sound (wind, snow, not music)? For example, if you're reading a trip report and there's a helmet cam YouTube, do you want music or plain?

What about using music from YouTube's "AudioSwap" feature?
post #5 of 10
I prefer music myself.  It adds another dimension. Although if you are watching a movie without music, one can always play their own while the movie is going.

Here's a movie that hubby did.  It's snowboarding but I make a token appearance in green and black at 1:05 minutes in.  I wish I could get this kind of footage on skis.  I think the only thing that would come close is mounting the camera on the skis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i89EqA6KO-s

post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Interesting end-of-pole camera mount. Really captures snowboarding. I haven't seen that before, but seems obvious now that I've seen it. Pole mount would be awkward for skiers.

I've seen video from on-the-ski mount before. Interesting in a novelty-way, but the sharp movements are jarring to watch.

I've seen ski footage from GoPro mounted atop the helmet. Nice POV because it's centered...my goggle strap mount captures one side more than the other.

Here's goggle mount skiing with music from YouTube's AudioSwap...


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Originally Posted by mtnbikegirl View Post

I prefer music myself.  It adds another dimension. Although if you are watching a movie without music, one can always play their own while the movie is going.

Here's a movie that hubby did.  It's snowboarding but I make a token appearance in green and black at 1:05 minutes in.  I wish I could get this kind of footage on skis.  I think the only thing that would come close is mounting the camera on the skis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i89EqA6KO-s
 
post #7 of 10
I like the listening to wind noise and snow if the it isn't constant wind noise. A good way to do it is have part of your video have music and then some sections where you turn down the music volume and play the video's audio track. What application do you use for editing?

As far as mount goes you should get a chest mount. 

Here's an example (yes it's GoPro and not skiing but I think it illustrates how it would look)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLKxgNdhXy0

post #8 of 10
Transitions are important, the proper type of transition between scenes and shots can add or detract from a video.  I use Roxio Easy Media Creator 10 right now.  The program has a multitude of transitions you can pick from, wipes, dissolves, etc.  You can adjust the length of the transition to help blend still shots and action sequences together.

I spend a bunch of time with my videos playing with transitions to make them fit just right.

Also, check with your local community college.  They may offer a course on editing videos.  That could be the thing you are looking for.
post #9 of 10
Hey there Hoody-
I don't know anything about shooting POV video, but I stumbled across this video the other day when I searched the volkl kuro. Thought it was pretty cool. Maybe it will give you some ideas-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YWKIRhTb3E
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Another tip:
* In flat light, avoid wide open snow fields (white on white background). Trees, rocks etc provide contrast and perspective. 
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