EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Buying older Pieps model?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Buying older Pieps model?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
      I was in a pawnshop today and saw an older model Pieps, It did turn on and blinked. It was in good cosmetic condition and had the original case and instruction manual, the only date I could find was telling you not to use it in europe after 1991 so its pre 1991. They wanted 75 for it, and being on a huge budget I thought it might be a good deal. She said I had 15 days to test it and see if it worked.   Yes or No?
post #2 of 9

It would go well in a retro ski collection, but not in the BC. It is probably the wrong frequency and with all the advances in digital technology, even if it were the right frequency, it would not be the most effective way to find a friend when time is of the essence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalanche_transceiver

If the unit you bought only works at 2.275 kHz then, you won't be on anyone else's frequency.

post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
It was a 457 but I'd rather not take the chance of the older model like you said. They also had two BCA Tracker's for 189$ but is the new 3 antenna worth the extra money, even if most of my friends with a Tracker have the Original BCA model?
post #4 of 9
Echoing the reasons in the first response, no.

This is a lifesaving device. And not just potentially for you - but for your partners should they end up in trouble.

If you are going to buy used, get a modern unit from someone who has a clue & who knows the unit's history. Or better yet, do not buy used. Very good prices can be found on new Trackers - arguably the basic workhorse beacon in the universe. If you know how to use it, no one is likely to refuse to ski with you due to your beacon... 

However, the big issue is that it sounds like you are just sort of tip toeing into this. The ritual at this point is to suggest some basic real training so you can make an informed decision yourself. And know what you are doing with the equipment.
post #5 of 9
I wouldn't buy it.  I wrote an article about older beacons with some informative links - read it here:
http://blog.sdcmountainworks.com/2010/02/02/avalanche-beacons-getting-the-drift-by-bob-lee/

For another thing, the pawnshop beacon is almost certainly a one antenna beacon.  2 antenna beacons are much faster and more intuitive.  3 antennae beacons are faster in the search mode because they tend to eliminate spikes which sometimes confuse the searcher.  If you don't get one, try to talk your buddies into getting them,    http://beaconreviews.com/transceivers/Antennas.asp
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
 The BCA Trackers have two antennas and the shop said I could take it home for 15 days and test it with a friends tracker, and check to see if the frequency drift has already set in. If it works reliably, and does interact with other trackers well, would it be okay. And I do not plan on using this in real life until I have taken classes and practiced with someone, and acquired the proper equipment.
post #7 of 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by minimedic18 View Post
the only date I could find was telling you not to use it in europe after 1991 so its pre 1991.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by minimedic18 View Post
It was a 457
 
What was the exact model designation?  I'm wondering why that warning label would be there if it was a 457 beacon?  Also, any beacon that old is suspect.

Quote:
Originally Posted by minimedic18 View Post
They also had two BCA Tracker's for 189$ but is the new 3 antenna worth the extra money, even if most of my friends with a Tracker have the Original BCA model?
Thoughts on Tracker 2:
http://www.wildsnow.com/2349/backcountry-access-tracker-2-avalanche-beacon-review/
Also, here's a guide to different Tracker DTS vintages:
http://backcountryaccess.com/english/warranty/warranty_charts.php

Quote:
Originally Posted by minimedic18 View Post
The BCA Trackers have two antennas and the shop said I could take it home for 15 days and test it with a friends tracker, and check to see if the frequency drift has already set in. If it works reliably, and does interact with other trackers well, would it be okay.
You can test for frequency drift with the latest versions of the Pieps DSP. Ortovox S1, and Barryvox Pulse (as well as the upcoming Ortovox 3+).  Testing for a broken antenna is also pretty easy if you know what you're doing.  Ditto for initial signal acquisition and also transmit range.  If an old Tracker passed all these tests, then I would be okay using it.  (Well, unless it was from a pawn shop, then I'd still be wary.)
post #8 of 9
Read that beacon antenna article I linked again.  I'd very much rather my partner had a two- or three-antenna beacon.  It takes a lot of very intensive practice to become proficient at searching with a single-antenna beacon.  Don't forget that beacons aren't just for getting found - they're for searching too.  Do your partners a favor and get a modern beacon...and a metal shovel and a sturdy probe that's >200cm.  

I predict that Tracker beacons will be pretty inexpensive next season, given the market entry of the Tracker 2.  
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
 Alright thats enough from enough people, I'm just going to buy a new 3 antenna model next season.  Thanks guys
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Buying older Pieps model?