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What length K2 Recons for my skill level and height?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Demo'd 174cm K2 Recons this winter on soft groomed snow and some bumps and really liked the way they turned compared to my current skis and a few others that I demo'd that day. Live and ski mainly in Colorado.  I had tried K2 Outlaws and Xplorer's earlier in the season and found them too chattery or harsh, although I was really impressed the way the Outlaws carved on harder snow.  The Recons weren't so harsh and seemed to carve well, at least better than my current skis; 177 cm Volkl AX3 724's @ 108-70-96. What impressed me most about the Recons was how easy they turned and how forgiving they were. I'm 58 and don't have the knees I had back in the day.

I am 5'9", 175 lbs, Type III skier, was an instructor and used to ski bumps all day if allowed. I also love to ski fast. I still ski bumps with my Volkls but they aren't stable at high speeds as my old 205's were. I'm not a great fan of powder anymore (knees won't take it) but don't mind a little now and then or crud in the bumps.

My question is: For a one-ski quiver, would I be better off with 177's, so that I can ski fast and have a little more flotation when I venture into powder or crud, or should I go down a little in length?  My Volkl 177's seem ok to me in the bumps so I'm not too worried about the length. I'm more worried about speed limitations by going shorter.

What say you?

thanks

Steve
Grand Junction, CO
post #2 of 14
The 174 IS a (the) 177. 
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I just saw that on another thread.  If that is the case is there both a 174 and a 177 sold?  I guess I should have also asked how the Recon is rated by those who like to ski fast.
post #4 of 14
The 2010 model  is listed as available  in 163, 170, 177, and 184. 

No 174.

I'd go with the 177 if I were you.
post #5 of 14
A lot of people on this board don't like the Recon, but I love it.  I'm a tad lighter and an inch shorter, but a female on the next smaller size.  I think since your main interest is the speed I'd go with the longer length.  I personally am more interested in maneuverability in off piste situations myself, so I wouldn't go that long since I really want skis that do it all.  I have one pair for deeper snow conditions (didn't use THEM much this year -- the Outlaws) and then the Recons.  Recons are fine until the snow is about up to your ankle bone and then as it gets higher than that you might be wanting something else.  I think both skis excel in chop unlike "livelier" skis, so you won't mind "sloppy seconds" one bit.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

A lot of people on this board don't like the Recon, but I love it.  

I think both skis excel in chop unlike "livelier" skis, so you won't mind "sloppy seconds" one bit.


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Originally Posted by Izzenhood View Post

What impressed me most about the Recons was how easy they turned and how forgiving they were. I'm 58 and don't have the knees I had back in the day.

There's just SO many better skis than the Recon, I can't stress enough that you have to keep demo'ing.

Even livelier skis (L8k, Jet Fuel, etc. etc) go through slop with a verve the Recon couldn't find in it's best day.

Really -keep on demoing (do a search here for suggestions) and you'll find skis that are light years better than the Recon. If you think the Recon turns easy (I find them stunningly boring), again, go back to reviews from some of the better known reviewers here, and you'll find something that'll be far better and more competent in most conditions.
post #7 of 14
What did I tell you.
post #8 of 14
The Recons have been my everyday teaching ski for 3 years.  User friendly, big sweet spot, versatile, good in most conditions other than very deep snow.  I've demo'd most skis in the 70-88 waist range and have no problem recommending the Recons.  I'm 5'10" and 165 lbs.  Different people have different preferences in the "feel" they like in a ski.  If you tried them and liked them, don't drive yourself crazy.  Just buy them. 
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
mike_m

Thanks for that advice on the Recon. I may end up doing just that based on my first impression, although I guess I have plenty of time before next season to read up on other skis as suggested above.  I'd like to demo a few others but here in Grand Junction our demo options are limited, and I no longer have the time, money, or desire to ski the big mountains just to demo skis. 

One question though that no one has addressed on the Recon is length and speed.  Any recommendations on length for someone who like bumps and likes to ski fast, and also wouldn't mind the extra flotation in powder? I'm about your size, but as mentioned before I'm in my mid 50's and not nearly in the shape I used to be.  When I instructed at Telluride, 205's seemed fine for the powder and bumps, but that was 30 years ago. Now I'm looking for as short of a ski as possible that is good in bumps, stable at speed, and tolerable in powder.

thanks
post #10 of 14
I think most people are unanimous that the Recon is NOT a bump ski.
post #11 of 14
Recons are fine for recreational bump skiing.  The 177 (174) length would be perfect.  Have fun!
post #12 of 14
I'm roughly the same age, weight and skill level as you guys. I'm not all that keen on Recons  They seem way too damp for me. But, lots of people like them and are even quite enthusiastic about them. If you're one of those people, they are perfectly fine in bumps.  And, because they're relatively damp, they're going to be more stable at speed than a livelier ski of the same length. If it's a ski you like, the 177 should be just about right for you.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I think most people are unanimous that the Recon is NOT a bump ski.

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Originally Posted by mike_m View Post

Recons are fine for recreational bump skiing.  The 177 (174) length would be perfect.  Have fun!

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Originally Posted by goblue View Post

But, lots of people like them and are even quite enthusiastic about them.

If you're one of those people, they are perfectly fine in bumps....

Gotta luv it.

Lots of people are enthusiastic about Bose and Rolex, but if you know anything about speakers or watches, well............
post #14 of 14
 I totally agree that if YOU tried them and like them - get them !  Don't buy something different based on other peoples reviews without trying them yourself.  I have both the Recons and Outlaws, and personally feel like I ski better on the outlaws in almost all conditions, except maybe when the snow is very firm.  I just like the extra stability of the wider waist.
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