Originally Posted by mogulmuncher
How's this for a 65/66 mm waist:
Good points Bud. I wouldn't know how to survive without pivoting...especially in bumps, tight trees and highly variable, steep terrain and conditions. Back in the day of when we were transitioning from leather boot, three pin and skinny ski telemarking to wider skis, plastic boots and cable bindings, the term we used at teaching clinics was "Use the right turn for the right situation."
Then the battle was the tele purists who believed if you did not drop the knee, it wasn't telemarking. Often these were the ones who simply 'dropped the knee' but did not pressure the rear ski which is pointless and got left behind in more challenging terrain. Same kind of debate, IMO, different application and date. You need lots of tricks in your kit and adjust to the variables, depending on where you ski and current conditions.
Regarding many gear type discussions, the location, snow type and depth, weather, terrain, aspect, skier preferences, skill and many other variables come into play. What may be the norm in one location, won't be in another. Here in the spring, we can see a dozen or more variables in a given day relative to elevation, snow depth/type, time of day, aspect, terrain choice, temperature, sunshine, etc. Having a ski and turns that can adapt to these variables are pretty nice/important to have.......adding decent carving ability to the mix for the groomers is a nice bonus for me. Fatter skis do seem to reduce many of the challenges and have increased versatility. The downside is, more and more skiers are skiing stuff they could not have or would not have, poorly. The 'art of the turn' is getting minimized to some degree.