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HELP!!! I BENT my Metron B5's! What's the closest ski out there?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hi guys.  I had a great ski weekend at Taos last weekend, and was just waxing up my 2005 Metron B5's that I bought from SSH several years ago to get ready for another weekend.  I REALLY like these skis, but to my horror I found one of them BENT, just behind the binding.  I've no idea how I did this.

Anyway, time to buy new skis.  I may actually buy two pair.  What I'd like, first of all, are a pair of skis that are AS SIMILAR AS POSSIBLE to the Metron B5's.  What's out there today that is the equal or better of these skis?  I really want to have some crud-busting, carve-so-steep-you-drag-a-hand-in-the-snow superhero skis like the B5's.  I'd also like to get a wider, lighter, more off-piste ski, possibly in addition to my B5 replacement.  I was thinking the K2 Apache Explorer might fit the bill.

So, what do you all recommend for my Metron B5 replacement?  How about for a more off-piste ski?  What do you recommend for a single ski that would do both jobs? 
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Thanks
post #2 of 16
Thread Starter 
post #3 of 16
 I have a friend who may be interested in selling his2006  Metron B5's,162 cm, would you like me to check on those?

As for a new ski, you should try demoing.......there are some amazingly fun skis out there.
I'd find a place on the hill that demos and keep trying some out until you find the one that makes you 

For me, it was the Kastle FX84 that wow'd me, fun in the trees, bumps, powder, groomers,......for you it may be something totally different.
Go demo and enjoy the experience!!
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
If the price is right, I might be interested.  Thanks.

Do you know if there's anywhere out there to buy or sell single skis, for people who lost or broke one?

All that said, I'm sure there is a reason these skis are discontinued.  What's better out there today, and why?  I really haven't kept up in the past few years.  I demoed some Coombas (one-trick pony) and Salomon X-Wing Fury's (meh) a few weeks back.  After the demo, I told the guy "I think I'm going to make these Metrons last as long as I can" :)  Could've been the tune.

For some reason, locally & at the demo shops, most of the skis I see are K2, Salomon, Dynastar, Volkl, and Volant.  Vrey little around here from Atomic, Kastle, Rossi, Head, Elan, and many others.

I'll see what's left to demo, but it was pretty slim pickins' even a few weeks ago.  Also, it takes me a while to get used to a ski, so I'm not sure how useful demoing really is for me.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Just looked up that Kastle.  Looks like it might be a good one-quiver ski option.  Expensive though- $1100 flat!  I generally buy either slightly used, or last year's graphics when possible to save a bundle.  Think these will go on sale over the summer?
post #6 of 16
Kastle makes great skis... but I wouldn't say anything they produce is anything remotely like a Metron. The Metron was a wide, heavy, damp, slalom-like ski that was meant to be skied short. Kastle doesn't make anything with that tight a turn radius, they have a very light feel and are meant to be skied in 'normal' lengths (if you look at Kastle, look at the MX78 KTi)

I'd look at a wide waist carving ski, such as: Rossignol CS80, Volkl AC50, Blizzard Magnum 8.1, Elan Magfire 78Ti, Atomic Blackeye Ti. Something along those lines are 'more similar' to your Metron.

my 2 cents.
post #7 of 16
I agree with Whiteroom's assessment of Kastle's skis not being similar to the Metron's.

My point is, I skied a metron at one point and though I was happy with it, I have since demoed a lot and found something that is quite different that I have as my 'go to' ski.

My suggestion is to demo and don't compare to the metron and you're likely to find something that wow's you equally but is outside the box.

In the meantime, I have a call into my friend if he wants to sell his metrons.  He rarely skis them any more except on spring crud days because they blow through all the mashed potatoes and corn with ease.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by carve View Post

  What I'd like, first of all, are a pair of skis that are AS SIMILAR AS POSSIBLE to the Metron B5's.  What's out there today that is the equal or better of these skis?
I know what you are saying TC, but...
post #9 of 16
I have found that the majority of former Metron B5 owners have moved to the VF82. The VF82 has similar floation, ice hold and smoothness, but not the tight radius.

Other skis former B5 owners purchased are
Nomad Savage Ti
Race SL D2
post #10 of 16
I think you may have to "move on" from the Metron B5 as there really isn't anything built that I know of that is in the same "mold" as the Metron B5 (a wider, super deep sidecut, damp ski).

We will have the Head SuperShape Titan next season that is 78mm underfoot with a deep sidecut.  You may want to look into that one as a replacement.

I just picked up the Stockli Rotor 76 which is pretty deep for its width, but not nearly as deep as the Metron.
post #11 of 16
 If you decide to buy two pairs, as you suggest you might, maybe a narrow carver and a wider  pair for off-piste/ungroomed? Neither would probably match the versatility  of the Metrons, but both might be more fun in their element.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post



I know what you are saying TC, but...
 
.....but, but but, outside the box is soooooo much fun!
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hi Everyone.  I left early Saturday morning, so unfortunately didn't get to read most of your suggestions before skiing, but I appreciate the advice nonetheless. 

Today, I demoed the Atomic Nomad Crimson Ti and the Volkl AC50.  I wanted to try the K2 Explorer and Nordica JetFuel, too, but they weren't available.  I had also intended to try to the Volkl Mantra today, too, but conditions were very hardpack, so I figured there was no point.  I first skied the Nomad.  I was happy with it, but noticed it required a LOT of forward pressure on the tongue to really engage and carve.  It was OK in the hardpack bumps, and I appreciated the lighter weight (especially when hiking with it), but it wasn't nearly as confidence-inspiring as the metrons in heavy/cruddy conditions.  I also noticed I tended to carve on the outside ski only for some reason.  It could've just been out of tune- they looked a bit tired.

I thought I'd be happy enough on it, would adapt, and was looking forward to the lighter weight, but then I tried the AC50's.  They railed turns every bit as hard as my Metrons...maybe harder due to them being 170 instead of 162.  They felt a little "dead" though...maybe a bit slower edge-to-edge due to the wider waist.  Dimensions are the same as my B5's for tip & tail width, and 1cm wider underfoot, as well as 8cm longer.  They felt as good or better in the off-piste and moguls.  They're slightly lighter than my old Atomics, probably due to the use of Ti instead of steel.

Very satisfied, although I wished the 177cm size was still available to try.  Strangely, these end-of-season demos looked like they'd only been used a couple of times.  This being the last day of the season, the shop offered them to me for $500, minus my ~$40 demo charge for a total of $460 for near-new skis (List is about $1150)!  I was worried I'd find a much better deal online when I got home, but they seem to be going for about $700.

So, this ski should keep me nearly as happy on the groomers and hardpack, be a bit better off-piste since they're wider underfoot, and be much better in powder due to the width and length.  I'd eventually like to supplement this ski with a more off-piste/soft conditions ski like a Mantra, But I'm pretty happy.

P.S.  When I got home, my Metron was still on the counter.  I pushed the tail off the end, pushed down on it, and it cracked right off.  The bottom sheet is still holding it together, and when you flex it into a curve those steel bars take the force on the top, so it can still hold a curve.  That's probably why I was able to ski my last run without noticing.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post

We will have the Head SuperShape Titan next season that is 78mm underfoot with a deep sidecut.  You may want to look into that one as a replacement.
 
What he said. Supershapes are about it these days. 
post #15 of 16

Hi all

 

It might be too late for that particular problem, but I have the following offer/demand:

 

During my first years of skiing this super skis I have had an accident by which I broke one of these beauties.

Well we hung it on the wall where it represents the event...BUT!

 

We still have the second one!! It is two seasons used with the rental binding, length 162 cm.

 

Lovely piece which deserves better destiny than just stay in the shed.

 

If any of you guys either wants to buy it, or send me the missing one, please let me know!

 

Martin

post #16 of 16

Sierrat Trading Post still has 158cm B5s, and I believe you can use codes to get at least another 20% their price.

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