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post #1 of 15
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 PSIA instructor so I am destined to crappy bump skiing forever according to pat's site :)

curious what you guys think. I am the only bump skier in the video somewhere in the middle.

http://www.stowe.com/_common/flash/video_box.php?v=April1.flv

also curious is this Nails technique? is this WC? or this my own thing if it was I can make up a new term yah me!!
post #2 of 15
That's the SRMM.

Stowe Resort Mogul Method, of course.  We should all just brand our own mogul methods. 


You're clearly a solid skier, and yes... your skiing is obviously derived from PSIA/Racing style turns.  Nothing wrong with it, unless you want to ski moguls differently.
post #3 of 15
boots dont match jacket
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by BushMogulMaster View Post

That's the SRMM.

Stowe Resort Mogul Method, of course.  We should all just brand our own mogul methods. 


You're clearly a solid skier, and yes... your skiing is obviously derived from PSIA/Racing style turns.  Nothing wrong with it, unless you want to ski moguls differently.

well I ll take solid skiing from you as a good thing, and Ill get back to your PM when I know a date I can ski with ya.

Ill also try to get some more direct fallline turns soon. 
post #5 of 15
Bush,

You should follow Merriam in the bumps and then you'll know exactly what you need to do.

Good extension and absorbtion overall, I like how you worked the line to come to the camera. Both feet are working together as a unit throughout the run except for that last left hand turn. You've got a bunch of great pole touches where you move through the pole, but the last turn shows how you get sloppy sometimes with the palm open before the touch (instead of wrist cocked up it is cocked out) and the pole touch gets your hand laterally away from you and acts like a brake instead of an accelerator. In that last turn you're late getting onto the new outside ski (see how all the way to behind the heel piece gets airborne?), your feet go independent and you wedge against the next bump to recover.

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Here you're already past the point where you need to be driving the new outside ski back to the snow but that pole touch puts you in a position where you can't do it.

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This is earlier in the clip where you get caught in a mini park and ride. It's the result of a bad line choice. You got sucked into following the big rut around the big mogul and then ran out of movement waiting for the next turn. If you had cut the big turn off coming out of the rut early and gone over the top, cut the bottom of the turn sharper up the back side of the biggun, or taken the turn wider around the bottom and then more uphill starting the next turn you would have been able to avoid the reset that followed this still. You took an extra turn in the set right after this. Just gotta plan better. The easiest way to deal with inconsistent bumps is to throw extra turns in and chop the bigguns up. Alas, they are sooooo tempting.

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This is a little habit I've seen in your regular skiing. Recognize it? It's the head nod that puts your upper body into a "C" shape. Your left hand is counter balancing the heel push and lack of tip engagement coming down the back side. It's an effective move to set you up for the next turn, but it's a tell that you didn't do the last one efficiently.

Overall your hands stay between the belt and the breasts and stay in front of you. You work the bumps nicely (showing a lot of edge engagement), stay over the skis with a tall upper body (with a slight forward lean) and make a great ad for April skiing at Stowe. It's not WC. It has some of the edge engagement of SVMM and has some of the over top line of SVMM, but you also have some pivoting and some rut following.
post #6 of 15
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 rusty your eye is awesome. 

FYI the park and ride was because I went back on to the groomed. and want to get back into the bumps due to lack of planning. This was impromptu "hey can ski some bumps for the camera to put on the stowe website" i said sure and went off and skied the off cambered single bump line that lead to a more open line on hayride.

I also almost never plan bump runs anymore I just enter them and ski them. It lets me ski over headwalls and just ski and really helpful to my tree skiing. Planning ahead is lame and something I only do when leading newbies though bumps. 

curious what you think of this photo?



the hands counter balancing has shown up in alot of my photos. Is this a good thing or bad thing? I figured it was non issue watching alot of mogul skiing(pros and like old 90s films) I see it thrown in all the time. I always figure it was efficient and desirable and natural way to stay on your feet. If you know a better way Id be game to listen.

I also find it funny how you say I use pivoting and BMM says I use PSIA/racing based turns. so which one is it guys?
post #7 of 15
Ayup, I saw the groomed. That was my point about planning. It's not enough to see 3-4 turns ahead. The idea is to see 3-4 "automatic" turns that end in trouble. Then you have 2-3 turns to figure out how to deal with the trouble. Then you can handle the trouble and spot the next 3-4 automatic turns at the same time. Lather, rinse, repeat. If you don't, the mountain will make your choices for you and it will show.

I agree that your lateral hand movement is helping you stay on your feet. Ask yourself if you'd need this help if you were balancing against your outside ski in this photo.

I also said I liked your edge engagement. Overall, I agree with the point BMM is trying to make (although, with respect, I disagree with the notion that PSIA has anything against WC mogul style skiing as an option for how to ski bumps). It's just that in the couple of turns when you are late regaining ski to snow contact, you are forced to pivot. It's ok to pivot, but if you're going to do that then you might as well take a straighter line.
post #8 of 15
Bushwacker,

Once I got over being jealous that your still skiing and I'm in southern PA where someone stole all our snow one night 3 weeks ago I noticed something in your clip.  Rusty's 2nd and 3rd stills are immediately after and before turns where your upper body rotates to the inside of your turn.  There's not a lot of this type of rotation in this clip, but your weakest moments involve upper body rotation.  You seem to be a very athletic skier and manage the results of the rotation well, however if you keep inside hand up and forward and stop the rotation to the inside you'll have less recoveries to manage and more ability to keep your bump skiing flowing in the fall line.

Oh, your tree skiing still looks like a blast but shows the same thing.  That makes it tough to balance against the outside ski as Rusty suggests.  And please don't stop skiing just because I done for this season.
post #9 of 15
Yup, you'll be more stable if you can look past both hands toward your next turn.
post #10 of 15
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boots dont match jacket

No knee pads/patches on pants either.  And, your skis are too fat for bumps

Good stuff really though, keep the head up, eyes forward, and knuckles forward.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 rusty your eye is awesome. 

FYI the park and ride was because I went back on to the groomed. and want to get back into the bumps due to lack of planning. This was impromptu "hey can ski some bumps for the camera to put on the stowe website" i said sure and went off and skied the off cambered single bump line that lead to a more open line on hayride.

I also almost never plan bump runs anymore I just enter them and ski them. It lets me ski over headwalls and just ski and really helpful to my tree skiing. Planning ahead is lame and something I only do when leading newbies though bumps. 

curious what you think of this photo?



the hands counter balancing has shown up in alot of my photos. Is this a good thing or bad thing? I figured it was non issue watching alot of mogul skiing(pros and like old 90s films) I see it thrown in all the time. I always figure it was efficient and desirable and natural way to stay on your feet. If you know a better way Id be game to listen.

I also find it funny how you say I use pivoting and BMM says I use PSIA/racing based turns. so which one is it guys?


 

Don't know Josh.

Last time I made a mogul run with you was poaching the closed mogul course at Holimont in all that powder. But you were behind me.

How'd I do?

I ski trees like I ski moguls. I ski powder like I ski moguls. I like the way you ski reactionary as when tree skiing.

You smile while you ski. I like that. Most importantly, you ski for yourself, not others.

nice pics.
post #12 of 15
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I have the exact same poles if they are Scott racing poles mid or early 90s or earlier. 
post #13 of 15
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I have the exact same poles if they are Scott racing poles mid or early 90s or earlier. 

well your kinda of right. 

The design is the same but they are new this year.
post #14 of 15
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well your kinda of right. 

The design is the same but they are new this year.
 

Ok, so they re-issued them this year? I bought a pair of Scott racing poles some years ago and they were blue. Later on I could not get blue scott poles anymore. They had become white/gray which was an awful color IMO. So now they have taken up the disco coloring. Great! I need to get some new poles for next year.
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So now they have taken up the disco coloring. Great!

Yeah, retro is "in".
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