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Where should I move? Co, UT, CA, WY, MT?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hey, I have decided that I am going to go for it! I am a 25 yr male living in New Jersey and have been talking about moving out west my whole life but I can not decide where to go. I have only skied Colorado(beaver creek, Breckenridge, copper and keystone) out of all these places and I have an uncle in Colorado springs Colorado, so somewhere in CO would be the logical choice.

I was considering Vail, but I am trying to avoid a snooty materialistic place if possible and alot of places in CO seem to be like this IE Vail, Breckenridge telluride? Is this the same everywhere? Is this just in my head? Are places in UT, CA, or WY the same way.

As for Utah I have heard fantastic things about the skiing, but some of the drinking laws and the social atmosphere turns me off(not that I am a huge partier anymore), and I heard the pollution in salt lake city is becoming a problem, again I can not truly judge because I have never been out there.

If my choice was just for the skiing Jackson hole would seem to be the choice, but I am worried it is to desolate, especially in the off season. I want to live a "skibum" life for a year and then see where it takes me, but I am worried the culture shock coming from NJ may be to much in a more isolated place like Jackson or Big sky.

As for California, Mammoth mtn looks awesome! but I really do not know to much about Ca skiing, any input would be greatly appreciated.

Another deciding factor is that I am fairly active in martial arts, IE Jui jitsu, boxing, muay thai kickboxing, and the only place that I found that would allow me to continue  this activity is in edwards outside of vail.

Thanks again for the input, please let me know your thoughts and experiences at any of these destinations!
post #2 of 19

Maybe sign this guy up as a roommate: http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/93569/anyone-ever-move-to-a-ski-mountain-and-hate-it

Lots of likely candidate locations, but certainly consider the Edwards/Colorado Springs angles. Use uncle's place as a base to scout things out for a week or two, then relocate to Edwards/Avon if you find something relatively affordable. You could get cheap season pass to ski all the Vail Resorts.

Don't know where you're from in NJ, but South Lake Tahoe might remind you of an Atlantic City by-the-mountains.  

post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yea I was reading that thread, interesting stuff, atlantic city in the moutains sounds horrible lol. Have you ever been to AC?
post #4 of 19
 I highly recommend California or Colorado.  You'll likely grow to dislike either place, but at least you'll know why you don't like it any more and what qualities a better place would have.
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
Any particular place in either? Any reason for the recommendation? Also Any good ski bum job ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have heard working in the shop tuneing skis is good, becuase you can sneak out for some runs, and/or work after the mtn closes and ski during the day
post #6 of 19
Jackson is actually busier in the summer than the winter due to the tourism brought by Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks.

Mike
post #7 of 19
T-full:

35 years ago, when I was year age, I moved from Milwaukee to Colorado to ski bum, and have been in the Rockies ever since. Lived for 5 years in Missoula, Montana, then back to Colorado. Spent time in most of the ski towns in the Rockies, from New Mexico to Canada.  If I were your age and had to do it again right now I would consider Bozeman, Montana.  They have a college, great local area 10 miles up the road (Bridger Bowl), so you could ski half days and still work if needed, and Big Sky a couple hours down the road for the bigger mountain and resort experience.  Cost of living is not too bad, and the people are nice.  Ski towns tend to have a huge guy to girl ratio, so a college town significantly ups the babe factor.  It is a fairly small town, but big enough to have some things happening, and the summers are nice. Fishing, kayaking, climbing, mt. biking, are all good.

The other issue to consider is local contacts.  Coming across the country into a town where you know no one is tough.  Any ski town where you have a friend of a friend would make your endevor about 10 times easier.  Culture shock is not a factor if you have friends.  In any event, go for it!  You will not regret your decision. 
post #8 of 19
Moved to Denver from Atlanta last summer with my family.  It's been fantastic so far but you're choices depend a lot on what you are looking for.  I will tell you job wise Denver is a pretty good place.  Despite the economic situation it wasn't too hard to get a good position in Denver.   I want to say Salt Lake has options as well but Denver is the bigger city.  A lot depends of course on what kind of work you are looking for.   As for fun, I'd definitely say Colorado as well.  In my opinion Salt Lake is a city that has had every ounce of fun sucked out of it.  In contrast Colorado has some of the best beer known to man in my humble opinion.  Denver is a bit further from main cluster of resorts and I70 can be a drag to drive.  Frisco and Dillon are decent size towns right in the center of it all in Summit Country but depending on what kind of work you are looking for you may need to head for a larger town.  I wouldn't judge Colorado just by Vail.  If you are looking for lower key there are plenty of other resorts that are less pretentious (A-Basin, Loveland, Copper, etc.).  Season passes are also pretty cheap in comparison to UT.  Vail Resort's Epic Pass is $599 for 5 mountains.  I know some the UT mountains charge pretty high rates in comparison.  I think both places you'll find a vibrant and active skiing community of locals as well.  Off season both have similar hiking, biking, camping opportunities.  Colorado is more alpine and mountains and UT more desert.  Both are incredibly beautiful; it's just a matter a preference.  Good luck with the move.  It was definitely one of the best decisions my family made.
post #9 of 19
I can tell you that there's not a heck of a lot going on in Big Sky itself outside of winter time.  You'd want to be in Bozeman to live year round, but then Bozeman's a hell of a daily commute to ski, that road can be a nightmare in winter.  Daily skiing at Bridger would be fine with occasional forays to Big Sky and Moonlight.  I think Jackson is more of a year round town than Big Sky, but maybe not as much of a town as Bozeman.  At least Bozeman's got the University there, so there's a heck of a lot more going on.

Up by me, Whitefish, we've got two seasons, since we're by Glacier National Park, and Kalispell down the road a bit is really not a ski town at all, it's a full town in its own right.  Whitefish, is also a tiny town of its own, not a ghost town in the off season, but it is small and quiet in the spring and fall.  We have great bars and restaurants open year round and a theater with plays and we have our own movie theater, but all the box stores are down in Kalispell and the nearest interstate is 2.5 hours away and there's no indoor mall until you get to Missoula, so I don't know if you would like that or not.  There's plenty of golf, kayaking, hiking, hunting, mountain biking, fishing, and some real serious drinking in those bars...  But, there's no martial arts scene in Whitefish, and I couldn't tell you about Kalispell, I sort of doubt it. 

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If my choice was just for the skiing Jackson hole would seem to be the choice, but I am worried it is to desolate, especially in the off season. I want to live a "skibum" life for a year and then see where it takes me, but I am worried the culture shock coming from NJ may be to much in a more isolated place like Jackson or Big sky.


Another deciding factor is that I am fairly active in martial arts, IE Jui jitsu, boxing, muay thai kickboxing, and the only place that I found that would allow me to continue  this activity is in edwards outside of vail.

Thanks again for the input, please let me know your thoughts and experiences at any of these destinations!
post #10 of 19
You need to go for a long drive and see what you like. 

Would also suggest you consider Sandpoint, ID.  Year round recreation town.  1 1/2 hours from a pretty good airport.  Outrageously nice lake, even has a Navy sub base on it.  Schweitzer Mt 15 minutes away, great area that doesn't get talked about a lot (similar to Whitefish).  Big enough town to offer most fields of work but small enough to have a soul. 

Sandpoint area still has a logging industry too so you could have ample opportunities to practice your marshal arts.
post #11 of 19
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You'd want to be in Bozeman to live year round, but then Bozeman's a hell of a daily commute to ski, that road can be a nightmare in winter.    
 


 

I agree.  You definitely don't want to move to Montana.  You'll love Breckenridge.
post #12 of 19
Crested Butte? not hoity toidy like Vail. near college. not too far from CO springs. very cool town. awesome mountain.
post #13 of 19
 Definitely don't move to Utah. Colorado is much nicer.
post #14 of 19
I made that same move about three years ago and I was about your age when I did it. I came from New Jersey and originally moved to Steamboat. I loved the resort and atmosphere, but coming from the east it was a little too out in the boonies for me (no jobs, expensive, tiny real estate, no real towns nearby, limited amount of shopping/bars/dining etc.). I'm pretty sure a lot of CO resorts would be that way particularly Telluride, Durango, Aspen, Crested Butte etc. I thought about moving to Denver, but decided on Utah because you can have the mountains and the city, which you don't get in Denver or in Summit County (or much of anywhere else). You can work a normal city job and still be minutes from the resort. Real estate is also quite affordable.

I totally disagree about all the fun being sucked out of SLC. It's not as big as Denver and doesn't have quite as much going on, but you can still have a good time there. Plus, the drinking laws have eased up lately and the state is catching up with the rest of the country (no more stupid private memberships as of last summer). And if you're really fiending for a party atmosphere, Vegas is within about a 6-hour road trip from SLC. I'm also going to wager that if you're moving from Jersey out west and considering places like MT and WY, having a big city isn't a big priority. 
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yea a big city is def not a priority. I may eventually end up in a place like denver or slc, but as of now I do not want anything that resembles a "normal" job. I have essentially worked in the movie office space except not as funny for the last three years and i want nothing to do with it ever again
post #16 of 19
Gawd no, don't move to Jackson Hole.  Stay out of Wyoming.  No fun to be had here (wink, wink).

All the ideas put forth so far sound good.  The only thing you'll regret is not doing it sooner.  You'll find snobs in every ski town, but they're easy to ignore.  Steamboat and Jackson Hole are year-round towns - Steamboat might be a little easier on the wallet.  Not much in the way of cheap housing in Jackson. Nothing wrong with the SLC area - Sandy is the cheapest ski bum town in the US.

Normal jobs might suck, but they come with health insurance too.
post #17 of 19
If you decide to move to Montana or Wyoming be sure to bring you own girl.....they're sort females in both states (and the locals are mighty protective of their sheep.)
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
You guys are really starting to make me worry about the women situation. I have never been that fantastic at getting them to begin with, and you are making them sound as rare as unicorns
post #19 of 19
Having been a 25-yr. old male in a ski town, I can attest to the fact that single women are a rarity.  If you leave a girl sitting at the bar to take a whiz there will be at least two guys talking to her when you get back.  Bozeman may not be the ultimate ski bum town, but the fact that it has a college with a couple thousand girls your age is a definite plus.
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