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5 day+ ski clinics/camps

post #1 of 28
Welcome Het! One of our regulars should be returning soon from a program at les Deux Alps. I'm sure he will do an extensive post. He also tends to got to many camps, so he has lots of info. When he gets back, I'll drop him an email telling him ab out your post. Meanwhile, you can do a search for user name "TOG". I think we also had a topic called Multi Day Programs, which you can search for.

Unless you use straight skis and rear entry boots, I DO NOT recommend the 5 day program at Bormio, Italy.

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Be Braver in your body, or your luck will leave you. DH Lawrence
post #2 of 28
Taos. Their super ski weeks run continually throught the season, so they are easy to fit in a schedule. They have the talent and the terrain.
post #3 of 28
Harb Ski Systems All Mountain Camps. 3 days, not 5, but if you're into the "movements", this is the place to be.
post #4 of 28
Here is the link for Taos Ski School: http://www.skitaos.org/SKI_SCHOOL/SkiWeeks.php
post #5 of 28
One of the best clinics that I have had so far was taught by Gavin Kerr Hunter, if your interested in learning just about anything his group is pretty good to look up. Check out the site. http://www.snowperformance.com
post #6 of 28
Taos
post #7 of 28
Thread Starter 

5 day+ ski clinics/camps

Anyone know of any advanced ski clinics which run for 5 days or longer? I want to improve my steeps, bumps and powder.
Thanks,
Het
post #8 of 28
SCSA should have finished the job. http://www.harbskisystems.com/events.htm . THis will give you all of the information that you will need if you want to take a camp with Harald Harb.

RH
post #9 of 28
lito has 5 day camps but they may not be quite at the level you are looking for. www.breakthroughonskis.com

There's also All mountain ski pros
which offer custom camps as well as a few camps but they are not yet scheduled for the next year as far as I can tell. This group does camps at several locations. www.allmountainskipros.com

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post #10 of 28
Also check out www.extremelycanadian.com which operates out of Whistler but has 5 day camps all over the place.

I had a 2 day private with all mountain ski pros and highly recommend that program.

Rob
post #11 of 28
Thread Starter 
WOW - you lot are ace! Thanks for the info - I'll look into all of those suggestions.

The Extremely Canadian courses look really good but I've been put off by reports of Whistler's nasty weather (see other posting in Resorts/Travel) so that's why I was interested in what else is out there.

Wherever I choose to go I'll be there for 5 weeks so it's an excellent opportunity to push my ability to new levels. I'm really EXCITED but trying to remain calm so I make the right choice of resort and camp!
Cheers,
H.
post #12 of 28
Also note that the extremely canadian (almost sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it? - when has a canadian been extreme about anything?) program moves around. I saw they were running a camp at Alta-Snowbird for example.

Also, Jackson Hole runs a steep and deep camp that you can find on its website.

Let me know where you decide and what you think of the program.

Rob
post #13 of 28
Do we get to know which one you pick?
post #14 of 28
I just checked out Lito's camps - they look great.
http://www.breakthroughonskis.com/Pages/skicourses.html
post #15 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks Guys. I'll let you know what I eventually choose and how it worked out.

At the moment I'm in a world of confusion somewhere between Aspen, Tahoe and Whistler. The Taos clinic looks great but I think the resort may be a little limited over a 5 week stay (nightlife not mountain!).

Other problem is I want to stay in a chalet so I can have meals with other people etc as I'm travelling on my own. It would be a bit tragic for me to sit in my hotel room all alone giving myself high fives about the big cornice I did that day!!! Can't find much in the way of chalet style accommodation in Tahoe area but there's plenty in Aspen and Whistler.

Cheapest quote I've had so far for Whistler is £3000 ($5000) and that's without lift ticket, clinic cost, insurance and beer - ARRRGGHHH!

Europe is not an option as almost all of the instruction I've had there (France, Austria, Italy) has been in a foreign language or the non-existent style "You follow me now" as you watch their tight pants disappear into the distance!
post #16 of 28
HET
If you decide to do the sugarbowl route (allmountainskipros), Sugarbowl has an on hill lodge that is patterned after the european chalet's. It used to be very good. I have not stayed there since the late 60's early 70's but I'm told that the charm is still there. The only problem I would see in that is the expense (it's not cheap) and I don't know how many of the people in the clinics/camp would spend the money to stay there. I believe that the formal restaurant may still be a jacket/tie required for dinner.
post #17 of 28
HET
not sure of your budget and how far "down the hotel chain" you want to go but the american Youth Hostels run hostels that are open to anyone that wants to stay. there used to be one in walking distance to SugarBowl. I believe there are a few in south Tahoe as well as Tahoe city area. These Hostels are usually bunk/dorm style units with upgrades to private bed rooms. Most Hostels offer meal package with their lodging which means meals with the rest of the travelers. In Tahoe during the winter I would suspect most of the travelers in the Hostels are probably skiers on a budget so most of them are probably hard core skiers or students.

The other thing to look for is a "shared cabin/condo rental" some of these are groups of friends or skiers that all buy into a lodge for a whole winter. some people come up for weekends or week days and spend a few days at a time. If you bought into one of these you could have different dining companions almost every night. I don't know how to find one of these but I know of a few friends that are in some. I'll ask around.<FONT size="1">

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post #18 of 28
Het - you should check out Doug Coombs' Steep Camp www.dougcoombs.com. It is in Europe, but mostly taught by Americans. This is one that's on my to do list. Also, I think somebody mentioned Jackson Hole. They have steep camps, and plenty of steep terrain too.

I was looking for the Doug Coombs website and I found this one; http://www.steepcamps.com, not what I had in mind, but you can't go wrong with skiing the Bird.
post #19 of 28
Het, you can be right about Taos's nightlife, however your instructor may be your chef! Most of the ski weekers stay on the hill in a package and eat together. One of Ernie's deals...you couldn't even build a lodge unless you were full cert and taught ski weeks. Jean Mayer of the St. Bernard is probably the most famous of those originals and is still TD.
Only as long as 15-20 years ago they shut the lifts at lunch, cause everybody was in ski week anyway. Trust me you will not run out of terrain.
post #20 of 28
Robin, how long were you at Toas? I've run across a couple people who worked there for a time.
post #21 of 28
Roto, I was the Director at Angel Fire for 12 seasons, off and on there for about 20+. Never worked at Taos, but we had a good relationship. Quite a few staff members started with us, trained and certed then moved over...raised them from pups! They have always appreciated the pros we sent, and we were glad to grow them!
I have the distinction of being kicked off the mountain by Ernie, the first time I skied there as a punk. Threw a forward off a big rock with his emenince overhead on a chair. Later we became friends and he always teased me about it.
Taos's schoolie rep is deserved.
post #22 of 28
Thread Starter 
What about Vail? Have you good people got any suggestions for good advanced camps/instruction there? I heard it had a good reputation for ski school but haven't found any multi-day camps yet.

I've been offered a really good deal there of 5 weeks full board chalet accommodation including transatlantic flights and free wine for £2000 ($2900) which is a bargain. (The wine could be worth a thousand dollars on it's own!!)
Cheers,
Het.
post #23 of 28
Het,
Vail had some good instructors when I was there several years ago but I don't remember if they had any camps either. I think one of the independents may have a camp that runs out of that resort but may not have an affiliation with the ski school. I'm sure someone will let you know.
As far as the wine, CO is a semi controlled state. if you are a wine drinker you probably know that wine is quite variable. I would not count on premium wines for the free stuff. IE most American's idea of chablis is diluted pink grape Kool-aid with some alcohol. Not the dry crisp fresh Chablis (chard) from France.
post #24 of 28
A year ago this week, I stayed at a beach front "bungalo" in the BVIs, that came with a free bottle of rum. In a place where a 6-pack of 12oz cans of Coke costs $5 US, this bottle of "rum", in the store, costs $4.

Be weary of free alcohol. You might just get what you paid for!
post #25 of 28
Sutter Home is the most popular free wine. Skip it.
post #26 of 28
I'd recommend Gray Rocks in St. Jovite Canada. It's about 75 miles from Montreal. While the Laurentians are not as challenging as the mountains in Colorado , you will certainly be challenged by what they offer. The program runs from Sunday through The following Saturday. Sunday is a free skiing day. On Monday they classify skiers. It sounds like you would be in one of the highest skill level classes. There are moguls to challenge everyone and the slopes are used almost exclusively for teaching. There are races on Wednesday and Friday. The Snow Eagle School was ranked one of the ten best by Ski or Skiing Magazine. One day is spent at Mt. Tremblant and you can elect to spend the entire week there with a Gray Rocks instructor. There are two hours of class instruction every morning and another two hours in the afternoon. Private lessons are also available.
As for accomodations, people stay in the Auberge Gray Rocks Hotel. There is a singles table in the dining room and the food is excellent and plentiful. There is a buffet breakfast and lunch and a sit-down dinner. One night there is a buffet with all the lobster you want, among other things. There's plenty of good wine available and they have a great bar with a round central fireplace. There is entertainment every night and a final banquet with your instructor. I was fortunate to have one of the race instructors this past season and my GS time improved. If you think I like this place, you are correct. My wife and I have gone up there for the past seven years. The cost is reasonable and is also in Canadian Dollars which makes it even more so. They have a website that you can check out--I think it's GrayRocks.com. No matter how good you are there is always someone better and you'll never surpass the instuctors. The lady who is the Assistant Director of the school is on the Canadian Women's Demo Team.<FONT size="1">

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post #27 of 28
Het, no doubt about it, Grey Rocks is one of the premier schools this side of the pond (my dad taught there). But Harvey, (and correct me if I am wrong Het) I think Het is looking for a bit more tilt to the terrain.
I would however recommend Grey Rocks for all levels. Talking about a Canuck school with some Demo team heavyweights, check out Don and Heather Bilideau's school in Panorama BC.
post #28 of 28
Thread Starter 
Don't worry I'm not expecting fine wines. What they lack in quality I shall endeavour to make up for with quantity.
I was at college not so long ago so I can still remember drinking litre bottles of screw top Spanish white in the back of a minibus on the way home from a hockey match. Nothing could be worse than that!!
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