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How much coaching do you get

post #1 of 8
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This board provides way too much fun. I wish I had time to partake more often.

I have a question primarily for all the ski instructors here. What percentage of your skiing time are you a student yourself? Namely, you participant in clinics, receive formal coaching, or partake in ski improvement sessions or programs? I’m referring to ski improvement, not teaching. Secondly, is the amount of time you spend in these programs sufficient for you to reach your personal skiing goals? Lastly, what are those goals?
post #2 of 8
I did 10 days of race clinics this year. I taught 25 days officially. Plus a few for training. (I think I skied over 50 days total) No serious ski vacations this year but I'm going to Les 2 Alpes this summer for a week of race camp.
But i'm sick too...

Oh yeah goals? Well since I missed out on the race thing when I was young I'm trying to catch up fast. (I will not be outskied by my 8 yr old nephew! -yet) Were the 10 days of clinics sufficient? no...but they stopped giving them! Can I -really- afford to go to France? no, but..."you know you're sick when..."<FONT size="1">

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post #3 of 8
I go to a 5 day event every December and clinic with Demo Team members. But beyond that, I end up taking clinic groups out quite a bit. While that's not formal instruction for me, I do learn from them because I press the group for feedback. We only have one person at my mountain that is part of the PSIA Ed Staff, and he is our Director, so he doesn't take out many formal clinics on the weekends (too crowded). We have quite a few other level 3 certs, and we ski a lot together, and give feedback, but they are rarely formal. Sometimes, I'll jump into someone else's clinic, to observe, but usually they are with lower level instructors, so I just observe and help the clinician. Because our senior level talent pool has been dwindling over the last 5-7 years (we originally had 3 examiners and 2 Dev teamers, but now we only have one dev teamer, who is our director), I find that I have to work on things by myself a lot more. And, really, that's okay with me, because I don't have huge blocks of time that I can set aside, because we get too busy.

We usually have a Demo team member come down to our area for 3 days during the season (the clinic attendees pay him out of their pockets). But this year, the team member that came, was the same guy I skied with all week at Mt Snow in December, so I didn't attend, since it was on weekdays and I would have had to take off work for it.
post #4 of 8
I usually attend a couple of clinics a year and one of those is 3 to 4 days in length. I would like to do more but other obligations prevent me from doing so at this time. I haven't taken a private lesson in a long time and would like to do so. My goals are to improve on the race course and backcountry skiing.
post #5 of 8
During the average ski yr I spend about 4-5 hours a week in clinics of some sort, be it dry land studying for my L2 or on snow self improvement or different ideas in showing students things.
Every chance I get I try to improve as much as possible. You can always go out to the hill and say I am better then X% amout of people but there will always be that X% above you.
If new school training counts too that is about half of my free skiing.
post #6 of 8
From memory, about eight hours in personal clinics. This does not count the "kick off" begining of the year stuff.

My goals for the coming year....

Attend an event, hopefully a race oriented one.

Work on spending more time with the "high timers" in order to add more to that bag of tricks. Instead of free skiing I like to double up just to observe the more seasoned instructors. Each seems to have their own approach and way of explaining things.
post #7 of 8
Almost every day, when I am teaching, I try to work on something. Sometimes it's formal, or skiing with a group, but I usually have a theme, or task in mind for the morning.

This theme or task is usually relating to what my students are doing, especially whaen I am teaching upper levels. If I have a class of returns in the beginner groups, well, I tend to "ski my brains out" so I get mellow for the lesson.

Luckily, at Breckenridge, where I teach, there is a training program, and a lot of "morning skiing" with trainers before classes.

Every year, I try to do something "big" with my skiing. Some years I am not sure what direction to take.

This last season was one of those. But by mid-season, I was more than a little intrigued with the world of PMTS.

So I trained, then went to a PMTS event, got my Green Pin. It was innovative, somewhat difficult for me is certain things, and I learned a lot.

It's what I love about skiing, and teaching in particular. It's a moving target!

Hey, some of my favorite old skis said "Dynamic" on them...

¯¯¯/__ SnoKarver http://communities.msn.com/SnoKarver

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post #8 of 8
Percentage of time...

Don't know that. I have three coaches I seek out as much as I can. Usually I hook up with each of them (one-on-one) about three times per season each, sometimes more or less. I attend divisional training several days. Several times per week a number of us at work get out and ski together, we coach each other, or just bounce stuff around.

One day with one of my selected coaches is usually enough for a month or two of practice time. When I feel a new development, I ski it everywhere, all the time until I have explored the extremes and experienced the situational applications. I do not stop until it becomes instinctive to my skiing and I can do it without concious effort.

By far I have learned the most while teaching.

Every day I am a student. I cannot count the number of breakthroughs I have experienced as direct results from lessons. This is due in part to working very hard to give accurate demonstrations. It also happens because I often find it necessary to present familiar concepts in new ways to really connect with the person I'm with. In doing so I often discover something new about the concept itself.

I ski all of these discoveries into the ground too. I don't mean to sound like I'm always thinking or working very hard while I'm skiing. I go out and rip for the fun of it while keeping my senses aware of the latest developments. Free skiing is where the learning really gets anchored; where the student finally interprets what they have learned for their own use and gains ownership.

I certainly wish I had more time to get coaching. A number of us found we felt the same way last season and started "Ski Club"... Uh-oh, I just violated the first rule...
An informal group event on Wednesday nights. We had a national team member participate and one of our divisional team coaches. It was fantastic.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...
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