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Women's rockered ski choices

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Thread Starter 
 
Looking into rockered skis.  Expert female skier 5'1", 115 # w/o gear.

I'm not going to get into women's vs men's skis argument- I'm only considering them because of my size as I don't want to haul extra weight up a ridge, fight it to flex it when needed, and would be consumed in choked out trees (which I ski often) by anything longer than 166 cm or so.

Have Solomon Tornado-Ti for hardpack/ carving, and Volkl Aura 156 for everything else (too short for me in pow, great in bumps, trees, groomers, crud).  I ski in Northern NM and S. Colorado, so it needs to be good in "mashed potato" / heavy crud type conditions as well as soft snow.  I'm not looking for anything that can handle hardpack as I've got that angle covered and the idea of judging or selecting a rockered ski on that is pretty absurd, IMHO.

Looking into Volkl Kiku vs. Rossi Voodoo 110 vs. K2 Gotback.
Demoed the Gotback, immediately loved it, (but we all love ANYTHING on a powder day and I think I loved the rocker aspect more than anything else,) but it's a pretty soft ski and I fear I might outgrow it once I get more used to the rocker.  Can't demo the Kiku or Rossi where I live.  I also haven't found anyone who can give me a real world comparison between the skis.  I do like the idea of a more center mounted ski as I'm so used to having to ski the Auras pretty forward (which explains the tip dive given shorter length I have,) and occasionally get punished when I land backseated (I know, I know, I'm working on it,) and can't get forward fast enough, so Kiku may not be ideal.  Basically, I just don't want to have to think about much when I get a powder day and my other skis do require attention span and good technique.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
post #2 of 9
 I can't comment on the others but I ski the S7 at Whistler (unisex version of the Voodoo 110 and identical other than graphics). They are extremely versatile and excel in heavier snow, allowing for easy turns with no catching. They're actually quite decent on groomed as well, which is always a plus even if it is not a major concern. What makes them most remarkable is their forgiveness. I don't think you would regret the Voodoos, especially since you can use your Auras in chop, probably the one weakness of the S7/Voodoo on account of the floaty, floppy tips.
post #3 of 9
I'm currently riding K2 Missbehaved in a 159 and luuuuuuv them.  I'm roughly your size (5'2, 115lb).  They have tip and tail rocker with a camber underfoot.  It took me a while to really be able to ski them on the groomers but I really like the stability of the longer length (I was riding K2 Lotta's in a 146) and it takes a really deep day to dive the tips.  I was originally going to keep these as my soft snow/powder only ski but I'm finding I like these skis in all kinds of conditions and are currently my "go to" ski. 

I'm going to actually try a pair of truely rockered skis to see the difference.  They are probably going to take me for a ride...the K2 Hellbents in a 169.
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I'm currently riding K2 Missbehaved in a 159 and luuuuuuv them.  I'm roughly your size (5'2, 115lb).  They have tip and tail rocker with a camber underfoot.  It took me a while to really be able to ski them on the groomers but I really like the stability of the longer length (I was riding K2 Lotta's in a 146) and it takes a really deep day to dive the tips.  I was originally going to keep these as my soft snow/powder only ski but I'm finding I like these skis in all kinds of conditions and are currently my "go to" ski. 

I'm going to actually try a pair of truely rockered skis to see the difference.  They are probably going to take me for a ride...the K2 Hellbents in a 169.


What is the turning radius of the k2 hellbent?  I am skiing a elan 888 168 but it is kind of big and fast for me.  I really liked the Icelantic oracle.  Does the hellbent have a big turn radius or small turn radius?  I think I would like a small turn radius.
02 gear supposedly had a really good deal on the hellbents, but I didnt see it in time.  I know the watea 101 was about 212 after additional discount and it was a $900 ski.
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What is the turning radius of the k2 hellbent?  I am skiing a elan 888 168 but it is kind of big and fast for me.  I really liked the Icelantic oracle.  Does the hellbent have a big turn radius or small turn radius?  I think I would like a small turn radius.
02 gear supposedly had a really good deal on the hellbents, but I didnt see it in time.  I know the watea 101 was about 212 after additional discount and it was a $900 ski.

turning radius has almost nothing to do with how quickly a rockered ski turns. with that said the hellbent is low 20 meter
post #6 of 9
 If you can demo it and your strong enough a 176 katana wouldnt be out of the question, the ski will chew though anything you aura couldnt handle. IMO it just doesnt get chucked around as other good choices in this catergory due to the metal and camber profile. 

Other great choices are a 170cm Kiku and 176 S7 or 176 Bc110 which are different skis FYI. the entire dimensions are different but the camber/shape profile are the same despite the differences in width. before someone says "they are the same" I bet one million dollars your wrong and Ill take pictures to make my case.
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
So, nobody had the Rossi Voodoo BC 110 in the 166 length, tried the 159 in 22" fresh- fun ski, but WAY too short.  

Kiku was great, but not as much fun as the Voodos, S7, Gotbacks, in powder and didn't hold as well on the hardpack.  Couldn't find the Katanas to demo as it was a powder day and nobody wanted to give them up for a run, and figured they'd be similar to the Kiku anyway.

Didn't like the Solomon Shogun (tried for the heck of it while waiting for the S7's to come in) for what I needed, but not a bad choice if that's what you're looking for.

Tried the 176 S7 (115 under foot)- pretty stiff for my weight, blasted over pretty much everything I put them on.  Would be great for me in a place like Silverton as I basically flew down the hill with my hair on fire and managed to pull large radius turns over the tops of a steep bump field.  Not going to be useful for me in trees and tight spots as I had to fight to flex them and I'm never going to regularly see the amount of powder needed for these.  

Shops will tell you the BC 110 and the S7 are the same ski with a different top sheet and 5 mm difference underfoot- I agree with BushwackeringPA- they are NOT the same ski in terms of flex pattern, weight, or performance.  Both handle hardpack and bumps surprisingly well, though, as they've got traditional camber underfoot and rocker with a softer flex in the tips and tails.  It feels like you can nearly pivot turn them in tight spots if you need to.  Both those skis do ski shorter than equivalent lengths in the K2 Gotbacks or Kiku/ Katana because they've got more rocker.

So, I bought the Rossi Voodoo BC 110's in the 166 and will mount them with a Marker Baron AT binding, which will stiffen them a bit- hopefully they won't negate the effects of traditional camber underfoot.

I'll let you know how they do and I'm working on having someone hide them for the pond skimming so I'm not tempted...
post #8 of 9
 FYI the katana isnt the ski the gotama/kiku wish it was when it grew up. While the Rossi skis are quite playful and very useable the Katana feels like bulldozer crossed with a WRC car. 

Good stuff on buying the Bc110 if you get a chance though ski the katana. there is rockered convert on here who has both and I could see owning both due to how different they ski.
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Not sure how the Hellbents turn...I'm going to try them tomorrow...the snowgods willing.  They may just be too fat/too much for me to muscle (I'm 5'2 115#) so we'll see.  I've always got the Missbehaved in the car.

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