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T-Power Viper S

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Thread Starter 
Hi All,

I am interested in the T-Power Viper S. As I understand it, this is supposed to be skiied real short. I am male, 5'5" 125-130lb, interemediate-advanced, east coast skiier. What length would you suggest I ski this in? Rossignol suggests 150cm for those 115-130lb, and 160cm for 130-145lb. So I'm right on the borderline. Aside from actually demo-ing both sizes, how can I best determine which length is better? Thanks for your help.
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I happen to have the same ski in last year's model. I'm 5' 8", 140 to 145 pounds [closer these days to 145], and an average skier skiing in Vermont. I have the 160 cm length, which works well for me in everything but deep snow, and I have had the chance to demo the next longest length. In either case, you will not have a bad ski, BUT: Every time I've had this same dilema, I've been advised by Pierre, eh! to go with the shorter length. Whenever I have not, I always wished I had. In fact, for my other ski used for deeper snow [K2 Mod 7/8, known as Axis this year], I bought and really enjoyed the 174 - until I took them into the trees. Then I'd wished that I'd listen to uncle Pierre. So now, I've bought the exact same ski in the shorter 167 cm length and am selling my 174's. So at your weight and height and buying the T-Power shorty slaloms, go shorter - go 150 cm. You'll have enough ski, for sure, and you won't be encumbered by unneeded length. When the snow is really deep, no shorty slalom is a good bet, so if you plan to ski natural snow that's deep, you'll need a different kind of ski anyway. For groomed snow and light loose snow less than 4" to 5" deep, the T-Powers are a BLAST! So ski 'em short, the way they are made to be skied.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ November 23, 2001 11:57 AM: Message edited 1 time, by oboe ]</font>
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Thread Starter 
Oboe: thanks for the reply. I was sort of leaning towards the 150's to begin with. My only concern was that going that short (almost 20cm shorter than my X-Scream 9's) was going to make skiing at higher speeds squirrely (under assumption and experience that the longer the ski the more stable at higher speeds). However, I take it from your reply that these new shorty carve skiis have plenty of stability even real short? I can't wait for the upcoming season on these babies..
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jwocky, these skis evolved from slalom racing stock. The have plenty of guts. Their length has almost no relationship to your standard length. On icy or groomed snow, go as fast as you want, and the skis will not chatter or get squirrelly. That's what they're made to do. You will be positively amazed! They also will be easier to handle in the bumps [for most people and depending on how you ski bumps]. However, be advised that if you find a hill of chopped up snow or snow that's any more than ankle deep, they just simply suck - so don't expect them to be any kind of an all mountain ski except maybe - just MAYbe - on the feet of a true top expert. Even that expert would do better with a different kind of ski for all mountain use, which is why I have the K2 Mod 7/8 [Axis], which is truly an all mountain ski.
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Go short! Hi guys, I am 6'1" 205lbs and a 20 year full time instructor in Vermont. I ski this ski in 174cm (it's longest length), and have found very few conditions in which they don't shine. Possibly, the weakest point is at very high speeds (over 35mph), they are not as stable as my 191 9X pro's, but certainly not squirrely.
You will NOT enjoy this ski if you are not truly centered over your feet. Any backseat driving is punished! :
Hope this helps.
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Well I finally had a chance to take out my T-power Cobra X's (this year's Viper S) today at Whistler for the first ski day of the season. The conditions were ideal for the T-Power, some hardpack and ice, with a skiff of fresh soft part way through the day. The ski's strong points sure shone through. Excellant grip on the hard stuff & ice, and snaky through the moguls. It even handled the crud just fine, though I was expecting to get tossed around. I'm 140lbs and was skiing in a 160cm. The only weak point if you can call it that, was it wanted to turn all the time. It makes for a tiring day when you are doing short turns all day long. Or maybe it was because I was out of shape
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wizard, I have not experienced the "wanting to turn all the time" thing. In long turns, they did very well. Since they are short, although they can run straight and fast, it is not their strong suit. My only complaint with them is in deeper snow and in uneven conditions where a longer, wider, more flexible ski works better.
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We all have to get used to the notion that there is no such thing as the perfect ski. It's like the search for the Holy Grail.... it's a wonderful concept that passes many endless hours away hopefully in a pleasant fashion and gives us an excuse to demo and swap skis with our friends...... but, like the Grail, it's elusive because it doesn't exist.

Those Rossis will cut short tight trenches all day but, on the icy morning cord, can they go into an overspeed condition that leaves you shaken....... you betcha!

Heck, I saw a pair of beat up 188' Volkl Platinums for $50 last week that would have done fine on that fast stuff. Grab a pair of old skis to stick in the rack and on powder days you have something that be much better than those shorts.....

Engineering expression......... How do you want it?

1) Good, 2) Cheap or, 3) Fast......... pick two!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ November 26, 2001 05:45 AM: Message edited 1 time, by yuki ]</font>
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