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Skinny skis are crutches on groomers

post #1 of 12
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since making stuff easier on yourself off piste is still being met with recent 'crutch' comments from many of the old codgers on here that probably couldnt ski a steep line to save themselves.

I contend if you so good at skiing groomers you shouldnt need the crutch like stiff, skinny flat tailed carving sticks. I mean if you truly want to get better at groomer skiing you should be doing on the fattest skis in your quiver all the time. Just like skiing SL sticks on powder makes you a better off trail skier.....or does it just make you better at archaic technique....
post #2 of 12
You know, at first I was going to agree with you.  I skied some rentals last weekend.  They needed more tipping angle before they would carve, didn't slice the snow like my WC SCs, or P50 F1s either, and they couldn't hold a hard turn.  That might mean that my race-type skis are a crutch.

Then I got thinking, and there is a definite difference.  My crutches, that make high performance skiing easier, actually reward high-level skiing movements and punish poor movements.   The closest thing to the fat skis on powder that you will find on groomers are actually the dull over-beveled noodles that allow the skier to be fine even though he has only low level skills. 

It's not quite the same though.  I hear, and it makes sense, that if you know how to ski you can get full performance out of a fat ski.  I am looking forward to trying some the next time I get to ski a big mountain with deep snow.
post #3 of 12
this is retarded
who the hell cares?

ski the skis that are the most fun for you to ski

leave the dick-measuring for another day.
post #4 of 12
So to be a core brah I need to ski SL in the pow and fatties on the groom. Lame.
post #5 of 12
+1

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Originally Posted by mrzinwin View Post

this is retarded
who the hell cares?

ski the skis that are the most fun for you to ski

leave the dick-measuring for another day.
 
post #6 of 12
Me too.  These threads are really tiring.
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Originally Posted by mrzinwin View Post

this is retarded
who the hell cares?

ski the skis that are the most fun for you to ski

leave the dick-measuring for another day.
post #7 of 12
Please put us out of our misery and tell us that you were joking.
post #8 of 12
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post #9 of 12
The only way  I agree with this thread is that carving skis are getting
wider and you can take advantage of this, if you want.

Bushwaker, the sky industry is sore right now and we need to
band us and stay together.

This type of elitist blabbering only divides camps
and keeps us apart. If you think a 66mm waist is a bad thing,
do not ski it. I have 66, 78 and 103 skis and they all have
their time on the slope.

Like someone said, ski the ski you like best and have more fun with!
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post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

since making stuff easier on yourself off piste is still being met with recent 'crutch' comments from many of the old codgers on here that probably couldnt ski a steep line to save themselves.

I contend if you so good at skiing groomers you shouldnt need the crutch like stiff, skinny flat tailed carving sticks. I mean if you truly want to get better at groomer skiing you should be doing on the fattest skis in your quiver all the time. Just like skiing SL sticks on powder makes you a better off trail skier.....or does it just make you better at archaic technique....

 

 I'll wait for you at the bottom.
post #12 of 12
did you survive!

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