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Poll: Dynastar/Look PX 14 or Pivot 14?

Poll Results: Which bindings for my Dynastar Huge Trouble?

 
  • 29% (5)
    Dynastar PX14 XXL
  • 70% (12)
    Look Pivot 14 XXL
17 Total Votes  
post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hello.  Just a simple poll for a simple choice.

I'm gonna mount a pair of bindings to my Dynastar Huge Troubles.  I've used the Look/Dynastar PX12 bindings quite a bit, and they have served me well.  I haven't had any particular retention issues when using Look/Dynastar bindings.  I've never used the turntable Pivot design, so I really don't know what I'm missing.

I had very recently picked up a pair of Dynastar PX14 XXL for the HTs, but I just noticed that the Look Pivot 14's are on-sale from the same vendor.  I haven't done anything with those PX14's, so exchanging them is an option.

What do y'all think?  Any votes are appreciated, and explanations and/or anecdotes are greatly appreciated.
post #2 of 14
 Where did you find the Pivots on sale?  Care to share? 
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
post #4 of 14

 Well, that was quick.  Out of stock .

post #5 of 14
 OK, here is my take:  both bindings are great.  I have PX14 on both of my skis (including the HT) and so far no issues whatsoever.  Pivot heel is legendary, and is supposedly a limited production run, so if you can get it cheap, it will definitely hold more residual value.   Performance-wise they are most likely a wash, although people would claim that Pivot is better at knee protection.  It is hard to imagine a more bomber heel than PX though. 
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
That did go quick.  Yesterday afternoon there were 3 pairs in stock.  There was one pair left late last evening when I responded with the link.

I made a (fortunate) mistake in this post when I claimed that it was from the same vendor from which I purchased my PX14's.  It was not; rather, I had been shopping from a direct competitor who had a price match + 5% guarantee, so they price matched SierraSnowboard's price down to $178.  That there became a no-brainer.
post #7 of 14
If you want a pair of turntable Looks, I have a pair of TT09s (DIN 5-14) in good shape, and you could just bend the brakes.  $100, plus shipping.  Or, pick up in SF or Marin.  PM me. 
post #8 of 14
Forgive my ignorance, but I presume you are all referring to the new TT's that came out late last year for this season, or is the Turntable design been sold in recent memory?

Perhaps I am struggling with terminology, but I have a ski buddy with some Omeglass race skis mounted with Look P14 bindings, which look similar (the big sausage shaped heelpiece) and a heel piece that moves left and right if you wiggle it.

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Originally Posted by Dino View Post

If you want a pair of turntable Looks, I have a pair of TT09s (DIN 5-14) in good shape, and you could just bend the brakes.  $100, plus shipping.  Or, pick up in SF or Marin.  PM me. 
post #9 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteepDeep View Post

Forgive my ignorance, but I presume you are all referring to the new TT's that came out late last year for this season, or is the Turntable design been sold in recent memory?

Perhaps I am struggling with terminology, but I have a ski buddy with some Omeglass race skis mounted with Look P14 bindings, which look similar (the big sausage shaped heelpiece) and a heel piece that moves left and right if you wiggle it.
 


 

The last "old" generation of true(*) turntable heels was the Look P series and Rossignol FKS . Discontinued several years ago. P12, P14 and  FKS120 have Full-Drive Concept style toe. P15, P18, FKS155 and FKS185 have race toe (no vertical release). These P14s are what are on your friend's Omeglasses.

The new ones are called Look Pivot 14, Pivot 18 and Rossignol FKS 140, FKS180. They're essentially the same as the old models above, except they have wider, removable brakes (XL=100mm, XXL=120mm?). The 14 DIN models have the latest Full-Drive Concept toe. The 18 DIN models have the race toe.

So yes, this comparison is between the current PX14 XXL (PX-style non-turntable heel) and the current-but-reissued Pivot 14 XXL (turntable heel).

(*) there are also models called Look Pivot and Rossignol Axial/Power (not Axial2 which is the same as PX). These have a turntable'ish heel on a longer PX'ish mount. Not "true" turntables. These came roughly between the last true turntables and the dawn of the PX heel.

Big thanks to Look/Dynastar/Rossi for the wonderful naming confusion.


Edited by Squawker - 3/17/10 at 11:12am
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
And thanks for the explanation, Squawker.  Pretty thorough.

And yes, I was talking about the current (2010) Look Pivot 14 XXL.  I'm a fan of the Look/Dynastar Full Drive/Concept toe, as I haven't been prone to pre-release, and I have actually even utilized the least known of the release modes on that design: where both wings twist along the axis of the DIN bolt.
post #11 of 14
Look TT09s are true turntables and have the Look Full Drive Concept Toe that's on the new Look Pivot 14 XXLs.  The DIN goes to 14.

FWIW, I have a pair of the Look pivot 14 XXLs, and they're the same except for:  a) the new ones have removable/replaceable wide brakes; and b) the new ones are about $150 more on sale than the TT09s...

see pics of the TT09s here:  http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187325
post #12 of 14

I would consider which is the easiest to step in and out of in deep snow, for like walking over rocks to get to a powder stash. if you're too slow, you ski over more tracks. this image shows a few looks, one on the ski you refer to, so I have to post it up, like "looking" at themI bought narrower brakes for the Legend Pros, Ha! so now have an extra set of 120's laying around. Look isn't to good about making the brakes at all interchangable. quiver 002 [1024x768].JPG

post #13 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by DtEW View Post

Hello.  Just a simple poll for a simple choice.

I'm gonna mount a pair of bindings to my Dynastar Huge Troubles.  I've used the Look/Dynastar PX12 bindings quite a bit, and they have served me well.  I haven't had any particular retention issues when using Look/Dynastar bindings.  I've never used the turntable Pivot design, so I really don't know what I'm missing.

I had very recently picked up a pair of Dynastar PX14 XXL for the HTs, but I just noticed that the Look Pivot 14's are on-sale from the same vendor.  I haven't done anything with those PX14's, so exchanging them is an option.

What do y'all think?  Any votes are appreciated, and explanations and/or anecdotes are greatly appreciated.


old thread but there is no reason other than adjust-ability and price  to get the PX14tis, the P14s retain even better, are more durable, and most importantly have less lateral slop than the Px series. 

 

 

post #14 of 14

^^^^ Yep. 

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