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Thread Starter 
I'm 5'11", 175lb, and ski almost exclusively in Vermont.  I'm a 28yo advanced-expert skiier (I can confidently ski any terrain in the East).

I have not purchased a new pair of skis in over a decade, and have finally decided to make the leap. Unfortunately, that leaves me wanting for knowledge about modern skis.

I ski about 50% moguls, 30% carvers, and 20% glades. I am looking for a one-ski quiver all-mountain ski that can handle short snappy turns, bumps, and East-coast ice.  Powder is not a concern for me, as I will rent when I go out West.

Based on reviews I have read online, I am trying to narrow the field of skis I would like to demo.  The Nitrous CA, Volkl AC-30, and K2 Apache Recon all seemed like good choices, but do not receive high marks in the bumps.

Some of the twin-tips like the Salomon Lord, Scott Punisher, and Nordica Enforcer receive higher marks in the bumps but I am not sure they are great for East-coast ice. I have also read about the Atomic Nomad Blackeye TI, Elan Megafire 82 TI, Volkl Tigershark, and Atomic Snoop.

Obviously I cannot demo all of these, so does anyone have advice about which of these skis or any other skis that I may have overlooked would best match what I am looking for?

Thanks in advance!!!
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 so does anyone have advice about which of these skis or any other skis that I may have overlooked would best match what I am looking for?

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About 10,000 threads on the subject.
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Thread Starter 
While I can appreciate the sarcasm, I've combed through the forums and haven't really found anything that talks about 2010 models with regards to icy East Coast moguls in an all-mountain ski.  If I missed it, please direct me to the thread.  Otherwise, useful replies would be appreciated.

Thanks!
post #4 of 10
 Hi Jeff. Welcome to EpicSki

As you can imagine, this thread has been a norm for some time with new enthusiasm from people returning to the sport, and looking for new gear. 
Pardon this if it seems sarcastic as well, but the best thing you can do is, get a good pair of good fitting boots, and then demo(emphasis on good fitting boots)

beyond that, your list of skis you're looking for are good all mountain skis that don't excel in the bumps, but then you need to decide if you want something that excels in the bumps or is an all mountain ski

IMHO you may be better off at this stage of your purchase, you may be served well by a good all mountain ski, as you've noted.

To your list, I'd add Blizzard Titan Cronus and/or Blizzard Magnum 8.7, and Kastle MX88
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Based on reviews I have read online, I am trying to narrow the field of skis I would like to demo.  The Nitrous CA, Volkl AC-30, and K2 Apache Recon all seemed like good choices, but do not receive high marks in the bumps.


Where are you located?  Maybe we can steer you to a shop that has good demo options.
post #5 of 10
 with 50 percent bumps I would say you for sure want a twin tip, because with out going to a true bump ski they are by far the best bumpers around. 

Bump skiing isnt made by the skis but twins with their straighter shape and softer but poppy flex tend to work best for me. I am straight up zipperliner and only do round lines when teaching students at very first.

I own several of the skis mentioned here as well 2 well reviewed skis not mentioned the Scott P3 and K2 PE.

My Scott P3s(184cm) have been the best ski I have skied for ice/hardpack bumps beside bump skis, they also have a good edge hold on groomers, ski tracked out glades great and are park and pipe and jib monster. Despite being wider in the tip than the Public Enemy/ Extreme they are much worse in powder and weird snow than any thing else I own. Its light and gets tossed around/

K2 PE 179cm - one of the best all around skis I have been on. not as good of a bumper as the P3s slightly softer so on groomers they dont carve like the P3 but is much better in glades, crud and powder.

Atomic Snoop - I own this as well. In 192cm(measures 197cm) but have skied the 184cm as well. Great all mountain ski for going mach looney, in soft snow more nimble than you would think and I actually love maching spring bumps on these. I simply can not get out of balance. The lenght can be an issue is some tighter chutes that are actually narrower than this ski is long so that is an issue. I would stay away though because on hardpack bumps both size felt clumsy. Good edge hold on groomers.

I own the blizzard 8.7(174cm) as well but although I can ski it awesome in bumps its wouldnt be anywhere near my first choice for 50 percent bump skiing. It does very well on groomers and glades and does better in powder than my Scott P3. I wouldnt get it for this application.

I would be looking at any 80-90 mm twin tip / quasi twin tip like the fisher wateas for what you describe. If your in stowe and want to try some skis and are near 305mm shoot me a pm.
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I love how guys like you make new members feel so welcome

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I love how guys like you make new members feel so welcome
 

I love how guys like you have nothing to offer.

East Coast All Mountain skis -2991 results
East Coast All Mountain - 3010 results
East Coast - 4261 results
Recon - 1174 results
AC 30 - 461 results
Nitrous - 56 results

Nope, nothing on East Coast All mountain with icy bumps on a Thursday morning, partly overcast with a 30% chance of snow.
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I love how guys like you have nothing to offer.

East Coast All Mountain skis -2991 results
East Coast All Mountain - 3010 results
East Coast - 4261 results
Recon - 1174 results
AC 30 - 461 results
Nitrous - 56 results

Nope, nothing on East Coast All mountain with icy bumps on a Thursday morning, partly overcast with a 30% chance of snow.

 

snofun3,
If you can spend so much time reahearching old threads why not just give an answer to the OP. I stand by my original observation of you.

Jeff,
Welcome and ignore tools like snofun. Atomic Blackeye TI, Head Peak 78, Dynastar Sultan 85 and Solamon Fury would be some of the good choices.
post #9 of 10

Hi Jeff,

I'm new here too. I have to offer that TC has given you KEY advice. Even with a "great fit", the wrong characteristics in a boot can spoil your impression about a particular ski.

Too great of a flex index for you, could overload the ski, and send things back at you pretty quick,,, and, at the wrong time. Too soft [low index], too slow,  is something else the ski designer did not have in mind.Sufficient lateral support is much less a factor today as most manufacturers have it well addressed. A good fit with the right range of absorbsion should place high on your list. Keep in mind however, that there is no industry"standard" regarding flex index numbers,,so they likely will vary somewhat from company to company in a direct comparison.

I've found that it can decrease the amount of skiis in the quiver by at least one,,or it can go the other way, as you get more equipment dependent...
Consider having a pair of Snoops in the closet. They are a real hoot in a varity of conditions and can backup you first choice if needed. You "need" at least two pairs for New England.
Remember ,,when it's all done, the one with the most [worn out] toys     wins!
good hunting
roadancer
 

post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the great advice everyone!!!  I recently purchased new boots, Nordica Hot Rod 105s, with this in mind.  Great absorption, perfect fit, and the 95-105 flex is ideal for bumps compared to the Impact 10s and Dragons that I was also looking at. I'm currently in NYC, but I'm thinking the best option for demoing would be to just find a good demo day at a Vermont mountain. If you know of any great stores that I need to check out in NYC or VT though, definately let me know.  Thanks!
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