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WTB -- Rossignol Classic 80 ti or Dynastar Contact 4x4

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Thread Starter 
I'm 6' and 210 lbs and ski at about a 7.  After taking a few years off, I'm now on the mountain 12-15 days a season, and though I'm progressing, I haven't yet gotten all of my skill back.  I live and ski in New England, 100% on-piste.  I'm looking for a frontside carver that is happy at moderate speed and will hold its edge and remain stable at high speed.  I recently demoed the Rossignol 80 ti in a 180.  I liked the Rossies; they were a lot of fun at speed and held their edge all day, but I found them to be a lot of work (at least in the 180) and they didn't seem to be all that happy when not on edge (and even less so when I skidded a few turns).  I also found the tail a little fatter and more aggressive than I expected.  I'm thinking about dropping down to a 175 to make the turning a little less work, but a friend also recently recommended the Dynastar Contact 4x4 (likely in a 178) as a potentially more versatile option that would also hold an edge well on hardpack.  Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.    
Edited by NESKI603 - 3/13/10 at 5:28pm
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I'm 5' 10", 235 lbs and use modern cross-under technique I also ski mostly in the east. I have been on the 2011 Rossi Classic 80ti  (175) for the past 3 weeks and I love the ski. It was recommended that the 180 would be too much ski for me (even at my weight). As you already know, the ski takes some effort to get up on edge. Once there, though, it is rock solid and has a huge sweet spot. The ski has been a big confidence booster. I also have a pair of Fischer Sc Pro's at 170. I have been skiing the Fischer's one week, and then the Rossi the next. I have not been a fan of Rossi in the recent past-but these are not your "father's" Rossi.
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 I really liked the CX80 much more than the 4x4. I've skied the 180 and 170, but not the 175. I'm 6' and 195lbs, I'd run the 170.
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5'10" 155 LBS.  I have been skiing the Rossi 80ti in a 170cm most of the season.  I luv em'.  Great carver & good off piste as long as the snow has a packed base.  Bumps & steep chutes are fine.  My only whine is the low profile tip.  If not for this, I think it would probably be a pretty good crud ski as well.  I have buried the tips a few times in soft snow, & that was a little scary.  Long turns & short turns are a snap.  The 170cm is a bit short for real GS type skiing, but I think a longer length would work okay.  As was said, this is not your fathers rossi.
JF
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for these comments.  If it's going to be the 80ti, it sounds like a 170 or 175 is the way to go.

Epic, was there anything in particular that you didn't like about the 4x4, or is yours just a more general preference for the 80ti?  

 

Thanks again.

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 The 4x4 felt unwilling to work with me. I didn't want to be a part of it's agenda all of the time.
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For 100% On-Piste skiing in New England-of the two skis listed, I prefer the Contact 4x4.  At your size the 178cm is about right.  It's a pretty powerful ski, and the stiff, flat tail does not like skidding but it delivers a lot of pop at the end of a turn, it has great edge-hold in junky (firm and frozen) conditions. 

The Rossi is a good ski as well-no complaints, I just like the power and snap of the 4x4 better...and it being slightly narrower makes it easier to tip on edge which for 100% on-piste skiing is a big plus.
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Originally Posted by epic View Post

 The 4x4 felt unwilling to work with me. I didn't want to be a part of it's agenda all of the time.

I demoed 4x4, 2 weeks ago (178 cm) and I found it a solid carving machine but quite demanding. This ski doesn't accept "let's take it easy" attitude...You must be its boss all the time. 4x4 also seemed to be well built (strong). Never tried Rossi Classic 80 but I'm tempted by Phantom 87 or SC 86 for "multicondition" purposes (except powder).
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The Contact 4X4 fall somewhere between the Rossi 70 and 80.  Personally, I prefer the 4X4 as an all round ski for on-piste. It is a great "East" ski. Carves like a race ski, initiating early and holding solid right till you let off. Yet it also handles crudd, mogels and even powder (in a pinch).  The 80 is a little big for me and doesn't doesn't put a smile on my face as much as the 4X4.  I'm 6' and 180 lbs and ski on the 172cm 4X4.
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Originally Posted by RaceCoach View Post

The Contact 4X4 fall somewhere between the Rossi 70 and 80.  Personally, I prefer the 4X4 as an all round ski for on-piste. It is a great "East" ski. Carves like a race ski, initiating early and holding solid right till you let off. Yet it also handles crudd, mogels and even powder (in a pinch).  The 80 is a little big for me and doesn't doesn't put a smile on my face as much as the 4X4.  I'm 6' and 180 lbs and ski on the 172cm 4X4.
 

Ditto

The 4x4 rewards the effort IMO. I've been using it as my skinny ski while traveling to Jackson Hole, Alta, Snowbird and Mt Bachelor. It's the carving ski that can ski the whole mountain. Even when that mountain is a big mountain.

Michael
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