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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I have been reading this forum for a while, but this is my first post. 

Unfortunately for me I live in Minnesota, so the skiing that I have available to me is all man made snow which is hard pack and very icy.

I am wondering if anyone could make a suggestion as to a good ski for these conditions.

I would consider myself a level 7 skier.  I am comfortable at high speeds like going faster and enjoy the blacks more than the blues.

I am 6'1" and 210 lb.

I currently have a pair of Volkl AC30's from 2009 and am having trouble with them not holding an edge very well on the hardpack that we get here.

Thanks for the advice.
Edited by Techheaqd451 - 3/9/10 at 2:29pm
post #2 of 11
Those skis should be fine for you.  Have you had them tuned recently?
post #3 of 11
Originally Posted by JimH View Post

Those skis should be fine for you.  Have you had them tuned recently?
+1 and how long are the AC30s?  That ski in a 177 or 184 should have plenty of hold.   But, on the shorter vert of MN a 170 could also be fun for someone your size, but not quite as robust.  FWIW, I grew up skiing on Minnesota.  Nothing wrong with it when it is what you have
post #4 of 11
 Def look into a tune (and please don't let the shop detune your skis - a huge pet peave of mine as a tuner and a skier).

However, if you  are looking for a stronger edge hold, look into some of the newer Blizzards.  I've skied next years Magnum 7.2 (72 waist), Magnum 8.7 (87 waist), M-Power 8.7, and a couple other of their high end all-mountain skis and they have the strongest edge hold I've felt in years
post #5 of 11
 I will be happy to answer all your Midwest questions only after you admit Brett Favre truly hates the Vikings and is there only to piss off Ted Thompson, you must also come to the realization that the final pass of the NFC Championship game was intentional. Favre, in no way, shape, form or manner would ever allow the queens a Super Bowl victory.

Only then will you have your answer.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thank you to all for your advice.

The AC30's I have are 177cm length.  I have had them recently tuned.  The local ski shop also moved my foot position forward 2cm on the ski, which has helped, but has not completely solved the edge hold problem.  He also talked about adjusting the tune on the front of the skis.

Manus what do you mean by detune the skis?

I am also wondering if my boots might be too soft.  I can get my skis to hold edge, but only if I put all of my weight forward and feel like I might actually fall on my face.  The boots I currently have are Nordica Sportmachine 12 with a flex of 75-85.  The ski tech in my area has suggested adding a heal wedge to my boots, does this make sense?

Jag, I would love to hear all of your advice about Midwest skiing, but I do not want to get into a debate about Favre.  I am very tired of all of the drama about Favre and the Vikings, Packers, Jets etc.

Thank you again for your input.
post #7 of 11
 I'm surprised they moved you forward on the ski.  The more forward your mount position the more forward you need your balance point to be.

Detuning often entails taking a file/stone at a 45 degree angle to the edge through the tip and tail.  The problem is that it effectively removes the ability to pull into the turn.  Many shops still advertise this as a "service" in their tunes, but it is generally a dis-service.

Your boots are on the softer side, but that may not be the problem.  I would also hesitate to go with the heel wedge.  The Heel Wedge has become the "go-to" move for ify bootfitters.  Often times a tow wedge would be more effective (helping to pull the core forward via the skeletal and muscular systems)'  In theory a heel wedge is designed to "pitch" the core forward by ramping the whole foot, however, this often times forced the body to compensate and bend the knees excessively and pushing the core back (defeating the purpose).  Also, think about people with lifted heels, Women in High Heels, you don't see their entire foot ramped, but two individual platforms to balance on (one under the ball of the foot, one under the heel).

My honest opinion, would be to have it tuned to a 1 degree base bevel, 2 degree side and do not allow them to deburr or detune the ski, and make sure that the edge will shave a nail all the way into the tip of the ski.
post #8 of 11
I also live in Minnesota. I skied twin tips until this year and now I usually ski my slalom skis. I'd say any twin tips, slalom, or GS skies are fine for Minnesota. If you're not concerned with going as fast as possible I'd say go with twin tips because they give you a bit more flexibility than race skis, but if all you do is top speed down groomers go with race.
As for a specific model, I don't know. I'm on Atomic SL 12s and looking to buy Head iGS, both of which are great for groomers.
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
Vegan, what twin tips do you like for minnesota?
post #10 of 11
Those AC30s should be fine on hardpack and ice. I'd suggest there's a problem elsewhere like; tune, boots, stance, or technique.

For tune, go with a 1 degree base, 2 (stock) or 3 (best for midwest) degree side, and 0 detune!
post #11 of 11
I don't have any good twin tips right now so I really can't tell you, sorry. I was on Salomon Flyers but they're way too flimsy for me now, so I need to upgrade.
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