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Help, I'm clueless (explorer or recon, ac30 or ac50, what size)

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
Hi,

I am an adv intermediate, low end expert if i work at it, skiier. Just getting back into skiing after doing the kid thing and moving away from the resorts i grew up skiing.  (Now in San Diego, just started back into the sport after 5 years off).  I am 6'4", about 230lbs.  I find most of my skiing being on piste, but if there is fresh snow, i love going off the trails.  At my age, 42, if i am honest, i am probably no longer the aggressive skiier i used to be, although i still have very good technique.

I am looking for a good all mountain ski, probably 50/50 for groomed/non groomed trails.  Maybe even a bit more towards groomed.  The only type of skiing i typically don't like is moguls...mainly due to my size and lazzyiness!

I am primarily looking at 4 skis: the K2 explorer or recon, and the AC30 or AC50.  I understand the Volkl's are a bit stiffer, and due to my weight, i thought that might be a better option.  Also due to my size and weight, i was thinking the 184 or so size would be better. Unfortunately, this size is a bit harder to get than the 177's in my area.  I have read most of the literature i can get my hands on regaring the 4 skis, but i was wondering what the real world says.  Any help or suggestions would be great.

THANK YOU

chris
post #2 of 8
Hi Bromhead,
I just got back from a week at Steamboat, we had all conditions from ice to a couple of feet of powder in the trees, I'm 6'5" and 250 lbs and a level 7 skier or so. I just purchased the AC30's in a 184 length and they were perfect. They handled all conditions and all terrain great. I've never had a better week. They were great carving on corduoroy, easy to get around in the bumps and fun in the trees. They are probably the heaviest skis I've ever owned but with my size they need to be stiff for the beating they take. I've tried AC50's and they are great for me in powder but they are too much for me in the bumps. I am very Volkl biased.
post #3 of 8
Your best bet is to rent skis next time so you can try out as many as possible.  I thought that I would love the vokl but really didn't care for them at all.  Ended up buying recons which I love.
good luck
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Originally Posted by Mark Tebor View Post

Your best bet is to rent skis next time so you can try out as many as possible.  I thought that I would love the vokl but really didn't care for them at all.  Ended up buying recons which I love.
good luck




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Originally Posted by bromhead View Post

Hi,
 I find most of my skiing being on piste, but if there is fresh snow, i love going off the trails.  At my age, 42, if i am honest, i am probably no longer the aggressive skiier i used to be, although i still have very good technique.

I am looking for a good all mountain ski, probably 50/50 for groomed/non groomed trails.  Maybe even a bit more towards groomed.  The only type of skiing i typically don't like is moguls...mainly due to my size and lazzyiness!

K2 explorer or recon, and the AC30 or AC50.  Any help or suggestions would be great

Friends don't let friends do Recons. Do a search. It's, at best, marginal in its catagory - there's much, much better.

The A/C's are stiff, and if you really want to be going off trail, well, you'll be underwhelmed. For sure the 50 is better than the others for off trail use, the 30, is, to me, strictly a groomer ski.

With what you're looking at Dynastar Sultan 85's, Nordica Hot Rod's, some Blizzard's and some Fischer's come immediately to mind.

Do some demoing, and you'll find many things better than what you're thinking about now.
post #5 of 8
Have skied the 50, Recon, and Explorer; an interesting combination of skis.  The K2s' will let you relax a bit more than the Volkls'.  I am left coast too, 6' 200lbs and old as dirt. 

Volkls'  demand you ski them, and will slap you up the side of the head for sloppy skiing.  They are very stable at speed and will hold the edge well.  I thought that the 50 skied loose snow and crud pretty well, many will differ on this point.  I ski a pretty round turn and these skis liked that, lots of rebound.  50 will be a little slower edge to edge because of the width, but they are not slugs.  At your size suspect that you would like the 50 more for the extra surface area. 

K2s' were like having a ski on cruise control, not doggy but very relaxing to ski, not as precise but a lot of fun.  The Recon has been touted as a very competent all mountain ski, and would agree; they felt like they would do everything, but nothing really well.  These were skis that I felt were not taxing to ski all day.  The Explorer felt like a wider beefier Recon; a little better float, a little slower edge to edge.  Personally preferred the Explorer over the Recon.  Neither was as lively, for lack of a better word, as the AC50. 

At your size would suggest you try both 50 and the Explorer, on the same day if you can.  At your weight think you might like the extra surface area especially in loose snow.  For sure stay to the 185 range. 

Enjoy what ever you choose.
post #6 of 8
 Think of these as cars...The Volkl's are like BMW's..they like to be driven...they want your attention all the time. The K2's are like a Lexus. they like to be ridden....smooth and relaxed. Both will go pretty much as fast as you want them to, but how they do it is different. So, do you like to drive or be driven? 
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
awesome response.  Thanks guys, i appreciate your help.
post #8 of 8
Philpug said it well.  If you're not a complete expert nor a bigger guy than you might find the Volkl AC 30 or 50 a bit much for now.  After a year back skiing you might grow into them.
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