Originally Posted by Lobo
No, terms Counterbalancing and Counteracting I rate higher
and any "up move" used for unweighting is not necessary. Use gravitation and energy stored in your bent skis.
So you use gravitation and stored energy in the ski in combination with CA and CB to turn. Anything else required to turn or is that it? Note that in the video the intermediate and the expert turns differ in one major aspect and its funny it has not been mentioned jet in this thread. The intermediate turns are skidded while the expert turns are carved. So how do you store energy in the ski at intermediate level? Dont you think the relese plays a major role? And how about tipping? If there is no energy stored in the ski how can you turn? How about the very first turn when you start out after stopping midhill? No stored energy.
I agree with you that the up-move is un-nesessry but there is a reason its there. And if its not you have to trade it for something else. IMO stored energy is not one of them, at intermediate level. Its also the case in pmts skiing. There are 5 books written on the method you are refering to so its kind of obvious that there is more to it than CA, CB, gravity and stored energy written in one centance. I could be wrong offcourse....
nickia, the main difference between the two is that at intermediate level the turns are based on skidding. In the expert level they are based on carving. The up-move discussed between me and lobo is used to initiate the new turn at intermediate level but is un-necessary at expert level if you turn like the skiers in the video. When you ski like in the intermeditae clip you are able to turn very tight and you can vary the turn radius. Its totally necessary to be able to ski like this. There are also other methods of skidding your turns. Skidding is maybe the wrong word. Some call it brushing some steering. I call it skidding because skis are skidding. But when performed correctly its evenly skidded turns. Tails are brushing. There are no good skiers that can not turn tight and skidd evenly when desirde or demanded. The up-move is a trademark of traditional ski teaching and very much so for CSIA where you got the videos from.
BTW, why are you asking? Are you from Canada? If you are not dont automatically expect to get the same kind of instruciton you saw on the video from any teacher in the us or in europe.