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I have a late spring trip to Vail planned- and I ski Atomic supercross skis, all mountain, they work well, but I remember falling a lot in the back bowls in late spring crud and corn. Should I try a rocker ski? What if I want to fly on the groomed, they ski the crud on the back side? Is there anything that will do it all? I am an advanced intermediate , ski all groomed at high speed in complete control, can handle most moguls, but when I get into cut up crud I become a complete amateur. Any ideas?
post #2 of 7
Aren't all mountain skis like you have supposed to do it all. 

>I am an advanced intermediate , ski all groomed at high speed in complete control, can handle most moguls, but when I get into cut up crud I become a complete amateur. Any ideas?

Not trying to be a smart a**, but maybe you need more practice than more ski. You are doing the right thing in getting out to a big mountain like Vail where there is a wide variety of conditions.  Don't buy new skis, instead spend you money on another ski trip. (or maybe a lesson)

Most people have real trouble in crud, and that's quite normal.  Also, there is a variety of cruds, some of it is super hard to ski right in.  I wouldn't worry too much about not feeling you can ski it right.  Just keep trying.  How about powder conditions?
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Originally Posted by Fred Murray View Post

I have a late spring trip to Vail planned- and I ski Atomic supercross skis, all mountain, they work well, but I remember falling a lot in the back bowls in late spring crud and corn. Should I try a rocker ski? What if I want to fly on the groomed, they ski the crud on the back side? Is there anything that will do it all? I am an advanced intermediate , ski all groomed at high speed in complete control, can handle most moguls, but when I get into cut up crud I become a complete amateur. Any ideas?
 

Yes You should be looking for something with a modern defintion of All Mountain. Go to the gear review section here and look at All Mountain or Everyday Western ski.

Sierra Jim has recently posted some fairly frank reviews.
Also look for Reviews from Dawgcatching.  those are reviews from Very good skiers who are (In the Ski Selling Buesness.  They go out of thier way to stay informed and keep us informed.
post #4 of 7
 eh supercross suck on anything but groomed

good skiers can make them work but I am not good enough to make that ski work well or have fun doing it. Call me lazy but fun to me is way more important. Id rather have fun than flouder in soft conditions. Get some rockered skis they will take any unnesscary learning of how to ski a short skinny ski in spring crud out of the equation. Learning how to ski skinny skis in powder is like learning how to ski on straight skis, a skill that is really not neededd nor fun.

Keep in mind snowbirddevotee skis on old rossi bandits and is quite good at it but disdains spring conditions with a passion and would probably like them if he was to get something other than those old rossi bandits.

The best thing is ski like the Blizzard  "the one", rossi S3, and other hybrid low rise designs will ski everything but groomed better and on some case will actually outskis you atomics on groomers as well. I can tell you right now that I trust several more at speed on groomer than any old cap atomic.
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Thanks for the replies- I re-read my original post and I gues I made myself sound worse than I am- in my experience 90% of skiers who say oh, I'm an expert level 3 skier are liars- so it's best to be brutally honest. I love the advice about more practice- would you call my wife and tell her we need to skip that next crappy cruise and head West? When you only get a week a year- you need to maximize the equipment and get all you can get. I just bought these Atomics on Ebay this year- they were brand new but 2007 models- and noticed right away that the tips were almost flat. The tip/waist/tail widths were what I wanted, but I never thought they would be so flat. Like I said, they are great on groomed blues. I was at Park City in December, and when we got off the chair this mountain guide told us that a run had just opened with fresh powder!! (they had been blowing snow on it all night and it was ungroomed) We dropped into the run and it looked like a 20 car pile up- cement up to the knees and completely crap, people lying around floundering. I couldn't get my tips to float for anything, even my brother in law and his snowboard couldn't get on it. We straight lined to the bottom and vowed to slap that guide if we saw him again. That experience is really what makes me wonder if a wider rocker ski might have been better. Thanks for your help!
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies- I re-read my original post and I gues I made myself sound worse than I am- in my experience 90% of skiers who say oh, I'm an expert level 3 skier are liars- so it's best to be brutally honest. I love the advice about more practice- would you call my wife and tell her we need to skip that next crappy cruise and head West? When you only get a week a year- you need to maximize the equipment and get all you can get. I just bought these Atomics on Ebay this year- they were brand new but 2007 models- and noticed right away that the tips were almost flat. The tip/waist/tail widths were what I wanted, but I never thought they would be so flat. Like I said, they are great on groomed blues. I was at Park City in December, and when we got off the chair this mountain guide told us that a run had just opened with fresh powder!! (they had been blowing snow on it all night and it was ungroomed) We dropped into the run and it looked like a 20 car pile up- cement up to the knees and completely crap, people lying around floundering. I couldn't get my tips to float for anything, even my brother in law and his snowboard couldn't get on it. We straight lined to the bottom and vowed to slap that guide if we saw him again. That experience is really what makes me wonder if a wider rocker ski might have been better. Thanks for your help!
post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies- I re-read my original post and I gues I made myself sound worse than I am- in my experience 90% of skiers who say oh, I'm an expert level 3 skier are liars- so it's best to be brutally honest. I love the advice about more practice- would you call my wife and tell her we need to skip that next crappy cruise and head West? When you only get a week a year- you need to maximize the equipment and get all you can get. I just bought these Atomics on Ebay this year- they were brand new but 2007 models- and noticed right away that the tips were almost flat. The tip/waist/tail widths were what I wanted, but I never thought they would be so flat. Like I said, they are great on groomed blues. I was at Park City in December, and when we got off the chair this mountain guide told us that a run had just opened with fresh powder!! (they had been blowing snow on it all night and it was ungroomed) We dropped into the run and it looked like a 20 car pile up- cement up to the knees and completely crap, people lying around floundering. I couldn't get my tips to float for anything, even my brother in law and his snowboard couldn't get on it. We straight lined to the bottom and vowed to slap that guide if we saw him again. That experience is really what makes me wonder if a wider rocker ski might have been better. Thanks for your help!
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