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Suggestions for someone who wants a straighter ski for the East coast.

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
My father in law is skiing on mogul skis because he wanted straight skis.  He doesn't ski the bumps, and obviously the Rossi Moguls are not doing him any favors on the groomers at Stowe, or when we get a couple of inches of fresh snow.

Any suggestions for a ski that will hold a good edge for him and accept his feet-together skidded turn style of skiing?  It should be something with relatively little sidecut, he seems to have an aversion to skis with too much shape.
post #2 of 19
 If you can find a decent pair of the Volkl P50 Platinum, that seems to be the gold standard for that type of skier. Not to ruffle any feathers, but I felt that the Dynastar 8000s were suited for that as well.
post #3 of 19
 why continue skiing in a manner that does him no favors? 

with that said whats straight? Tromano has a pair of IM103 for sale that have a 40 meter sidecut and in a 183cm. thats pretty straight.
post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 why continue skiing in a manner that does him no favors? 

with that said whats straight? Tromano has a pair of IM103 for sale that have a 40 meter sidecut and in a 183cm. thats pretty straight.

Have another look:  "feet-together" skidded= 70mm waist or less.  
post #5 of 19
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Have another look:  "feet-together" skidded= 70mm waist or less.  


 

that the straightest skis you can buy currently with out being a Super G or DH ski. its a 40 meter sidecut I am sure its skids great :).
post #6 of 19
Sure, but if he can't put his feet together, the whole project is out the window, no?
post #7 of 19
hrspear, how long a ski does he want?
post #8 of 19
Völkl P50 F1 off E-bay (from 2002).  23 m radius.  At 188 cm and with 1:2 base:side bevels, it's easy to modulate between skidding and carving, carves well, is soft enough to make tight turns for a 180 lb skier. 

Do a search here for a dissenting viewpoint from Arnold the skier (I think it was his).
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks folks, the length would probably be around 160, he's about 5'7" or so and not carrying any extra weight, probably weighs about 150 lbs.

eBay is definintely out of the question, he's the kind of guy that buys something new every year or two, usually at the beginning of the season.  Hey someone has to subsidize the rest of us that wait for everything to be at least 40% off before thinking about buying it ;-).

I'll take a look at the Dynastar 8000's, I know a lot of folks who love them.
post #10 of 19
The Dynastar 8000s are no longer made so you can't buy it new.  I own a pair and don't really think they fit your father-in-laws needs anyway.  Really an advanced-to-expert ski for western soft snow conditions.  Only so so grip on hard snow.  I would look at an intermediate level ski that will easily skid.  Two skis that might work are the Blizzard Magnum 7.6 and Atomic Smoke.
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Might be too much shape to those, but they definitely sound like the right general direction.  I think either the Blizzard or the Atomic would actually be really good skis for him, but getting him past the sidecut may be tough.
post #12 of 19
Hold a good edge in a skidded turn??? I think I'm missing something here.........

SJ
post #13 of 19
I would try to convince him to go with an "on-piste" carver. Most of the manufacturers have a line like this. A couple of suggestions - Rossi Avenger 72 or Dynastar Booster 10. Both are fairly narrow, have subdued sidecuts (and subdued graphics). They both have a fairly gentle side cut in the tail - Rossi is 28 mm diff, and the Dyna is 25 mm diff. This allows the tails to skid a little bit more easily.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by hrspear View Post

Might be too much shape to those, but they definitely sound like the right general direction.  I think either the Blizzard or the Atomic would actually be really good skis for him, but getting him past the sidecut may be tough.

Get him to demo them or something like them.  He might be surprised.
post #15 of 19
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Hold a good edge in a skidded turn??? I think I'm missing something here.........

SJ

nope the guy who wont learn to actually ski but keep his feet together is missing something.
post #16 of 19
I don't mean to sound like a dick (really), but it probably doesn't really matter what he skis on.
That goes for most skiers on the hill: if you're not skiing bumps, or carving, the ski is just sliding along.  A modern ski is designed to engage its sidecut,etc. There is no such thing as "performance" without engaging the ski. He should probably look at beginner models if anything, as these will be the most forgiving for his lack of technique.
But really, as suggested above, why not learn how to ski? It's not that hard, and would be so much more fun. In that case, a decent forgiving midfat like a K2 Recon, or maybe narrower, would be the ticket.
Check out some Harold Harb videos on youtube and he'll be carving in no time.
post #17 of 19

(never mind)


Edited by SUV Steve - 3/6/10 at 4:22am
post #18 of 19
A ski with good edge grip and long radius, tuned to a moderately acute edge angle like 1:2, can be easily controlled so that the grip will be strong when needed and easily let go when desired.

To the OP, I can't think of any new skis that fit your request; they all seem to be going fat and/or short turn radius.  However, you should look for these characteristics:  long turn radius (less sidecut), skinny, moderate flex.  Good luck finding it.  Maybe left over Rossi RX skis.
post #19 of 19
Semi serious - take any 65-70mm modern ski and detune the hell out of it so it won't be *cough*cough* "grabby".
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