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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
After the weather in the northeast last week, I have reconsidered the idea of a having 2 skis. I currently ski the Head Supershape and with its 66mm underfoot, it may not be the best ski for 4 feet of snow and the crud that is left over during the next week.

I ski in Vermont, a level 7-8 skier, 6' and 210lbs.
I was looking for a second ski that will handle east coast powder and the heavy crud that is left over. I don't ski moguls anymore, but do a little tree skiing. Since this is the east coast, the ability for some edge on hardpack would be a benefit.

Any thoughts about the following skis would be appreciated:
  Dynastar Legend Mythic Rider 
  Fischer Watea 94
  Volkl Mantra
  Blizzard Titan Atlas
  Elan 888.

Thanks in advance.
Chris
post #2 of 25
I like the Monster 88 for those conditions.  No being made any more though.  The Stockli XVL may be a good alternative.  I have heard good things about the 888 and Wates though. 
post #3 of 25
 Honestly, The Line Prophet 100 is a great eastern second ski, however it is not always the best in a lot of crud.  The K2 Extreme (or next years Silencer) at 85 is also a good choice but not super wide.  I also would consider the Blizzard Cronus as opposed to the Atlas, it will be much more forgiving when not in pow.

I generally don't recommend the Mantra's to people on the east, as the majority of people on it would benefit from being on a different ski, it is generally just too demanding for the vast majority of people on it, but the Kendo for next year would be a better bet at 88 under foot (same as the Mantra, just a little smaller)
post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the information. I had not heard that about the mantra before. I have not heard too many things about any Stockli ski. I will check it out
post #5 of 25
Isn't the K2 extreme a noodle compared to the prophet 100?  Class 7-8?  Prophet baby.
post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 
I have heard a lot about the prophet 90. Not too much about the 100.
post #7 of 25
179 BRO
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by Caucasian Asian View Post

179 BRO

Not 179, but 174 may do the trick, eh?
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/89292/fs-174-soft-bro-s-with-duke-bindings
post #9 of 25
If you want something a little different, but a great east coast wider ski-try the Icelantic Pilgrims.
post #10 of 25
Second the BRO's.  Why buy Chinese crap.  (as I run to PM Gear to check where they make their stuff...)
post #11 of 25

I own the Mythic Rider, and it's a great ski for it's intened purpose. That's any kind of 3-D snow, and while there are certainly better choices for powder, if crud busting is what you want, you'd be hard pressed to find something better.

 

While they can certainly carve on hardpack (quite well actually), leave them home if that's the condition du jour. They are a stiff ski, and not very damp. I find that I really need to stay on top of them, and the ride is less than smooth. It's more work than I want when I'm skiing.

For the most part, the skis on your list are very different, and it would probably be worth your while to try a couple of them if you can.

post #12 of 25
 I just picked up the 888's, replacing some 666's. These are great in everything except classic rock hard bumps. Pretty light, but as all Elans, very stable at speed and turny enough for trees and other interesting terrain. FYI, I ski at Sugarbush and MRG and hit both last weekend...Good times!! 
post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by ccnway View Post

After the weather in the northeast last week, I have reconsidered the idea of a having 2 skis. I currently ski the Head Supershape and with its 66mm underfoot, it may not be the best ski for 4 feet of snow and the crud that is left over during the next week.

I ski in Vermont, a level 7-8 skier, 6' and 210lbs.
I was looking for a second ski that will handle east coast powder and the heavy crud that is left over. I don't ski moguls anymore, but do a little tree skiing. Since this is the east coast, the ability for some edge on hardpack would be a benefit.

Any thoughts about the following skis would be appreciated:
  Dynastar Legend Mythic Rider 
  Fischer Watea 94
  Volkl Mantra
  Blizzard Titan Atlas
  Elan 888.

Thanks in advance.
Chris

rockered skis are way quicker in the trees than cambered skis and dont lose that much on hardpack.

Rossi S3
Blizzard "the one" 2011 model

are a great starting point the skis you mentioned arent slouches its just I wouldnt get a off trailish ski with full camber if I had another ski that had camber for hardback.
post #14 of 25
Dynastar 6th Sense Distorter will do everything you are looking for. It turns when you want it, will give you some float and still will hold an edge. I've been skiing the Mantra for the past 4 years and it is one of my all time favorites but the Dynastar is better IMO. I have also been skiing the Blizzard Atlas and really like it but is even beefier than the Mantra. If you want a more traditional shape, as opposed to a twin, than the Sultan 85 would be a good choice.   
post #15 of 25
I'd suggest having a look at the skis here;
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/92748/western-daily-drivers-in-the-90-100mm-range#post_1202331

Sounds like a few, maybe all, could fit the bill for a wider 2nd east coast ski - depending on ability and priorities.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ccnway View Post

After the weather in the northeast last week, I have reconsidered the idea of a having 2 skis. I currently ski the Head Supershape and with its 66mm underfoot, it may not be the best ski for 4 feet of snow and the crud that is left over during the next week.

I ski in Vermont, a level 7-8 skier, 6' and 210lbs.
I was looking for a second ski that will handle east coast powder and the heavy crud that is left over. I don't ski moguls anymore, but do a little tree skiing. Since this is the east coast, the ability for some edge on hardpack would be a benefit.

Any thoughts about the following skis would be appreciated:
  Dynastar Legend Mythic Rider 
  Fischer Watea 94
  Volkl Mantra
  Blizzard Titan Atlas
  Elan 888.

Thanks in advance.
Chris
 
post #16 of 25
Thread Starter 
 Haven't heard of the BRO's. Some of the small ski companies like Icelantic and Liberty sound very good, but they are difficult to demo on the east coast.
Chris
post #17 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post




rockered skis are way quicker in the trees than cambered skis and dont lose that much on hardpack.

Rossi S3
Blizzard "the one" 2011 model

are a great starting point the skis you mentioned arent slouches its just I wouldnt get a off trailish ski with full camber if I had another ski that had camber for hardback.
Since I already have a ski for the hardpack conditions we occasionally see here in Vt, this is a great suggestion. Thanks. 



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Originally Posted by Vinski View Post

I'd suggest having a look at the skis here;
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/92748/western-daily-drivers-in-the-90-100mm-range#post_1202331

Sounds like a few, maybe all, could fit the bill for a wider 2nd east coast ski - depending on ability and priorities.
 


 
I have read this. I agree that one of these may be a good choice. I am not sure which one yet.
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NESkiBum View Post

Dynastar 6th Sense Distorter will do everything you are looking for. It turns when you want it, will give you some float and still will hold an edge. I've been skiing the Mantra for the past 4 years and it is one of my all time favorites but the Dynastar is better IMO. I have also been skiing the Blizzard Atlas and really like it but is even beefier than the Mantra. If you want a more traditional shape, as opposed to a twin, than the Sultan 85 would be a good choice.   

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Originally Posted by garylk View Post

I own the Mythic Rider, and it's a great ski for it's intened purpose. That's any kind of 3-D snow, and while there are certainly better choices for powder, if crud busting is what you want, you'd be hard pressed to find something better.

 

While they can certainly carve on hardpack (quite well actually), leave them home if that's the condition du jour. They are a stiff ski, and not very damp. I find that I really need to stay on top of them, and the ride is less than smooth. It's more work than I want when I'm skiing.

For the most part, the skis on your list are very different, and it would probably be worth your while to try a couple of them if you can.


I am not sure if I want a beefier ski or not yet as a second ski. I will probably have to wait and demo next season.

Thanks
post #19 of 25
Skied with a guy at Killington last weekend who was on the Watea 94s.  He was a very good skier skiing serious terrain, like steep lines on Superstar headwall and stuff.  And he RAVED about them.  Give em a try if you can. 
post #20 of 25
 I will have to agree on the Watea 94s.  I have tried the prophet 90 and it was good, not amazing.  I can't speak for the 100 though.  As for the extreme, I will use them in up to a foot and they handle it very well considering the 85 mm waist.  Good in crud too. 
post #21 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by NESkiBum View Post

Dynastar 6th Sense Distorter will do everything you are looking for. It turns when you want it, will give you some float and still will hold an edge. I've been skiing the Mantra for the past 4 years and it is one of my all time favorites but the Dynastar is better IMO. I have also been skiing the Blizzard Atlas and really like it but is even beefier than the Mantra. If you want a more traditional shape, as opposed to a twin, than the Sultan 85 would be a good choice.   

beefy is the last thing you want in an east coast powder ski since all of our powder is very tight places...
post #22 of 25

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Edited by HaveSkisWillClimb - 8/16/10 at 10:01pm
post #23 of 25

To throw in a few more:

 

Moment:
 Rocker(92mm), rocker: 4cm tip/3cm tail

 Tahoe(96mm), trad. camber

 

$.01


Edited by HaveSkisWillClimb - 8/16/10 at 10:00pm
post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by ccnway View Post

 Haven't heard of the BRO's. Some of the small ski companies like Icelantic and Liberty sound very good, but they are difficult to demo on the east coast.
Chris

 

Do it.  I did, and I'll never go back!  PM Gear for liiiiiiiiiife!      

post #25 of 25

i have some BROs in a 173, amazing classic DO EVERYTHING but this is a serious ski, take note.   Also could check out Lib Tech NAS for some magne traction, i know it looks weird but its great stuff and yes, it does work.

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