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Stocki Scot Schmidt 101mm easier than the SS 89mm?

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I skied the 101 Scott schmidt last year in vail and it was awesome. I own the older 89mm SS and love that ski as well. I had thought the 101 scmidt was a bit easier and skied the bumps very well but had never skied my SS in the bumps. Until yesterday.....

 

I thought my schmidt's sucked in the bumps. Very hard to maneuver. I'm talking large bumps here. I skied them in smaller bumps after 10" of fresh and they were ok. Not great but ok. After 6-7 feet last week these were some big a$$ bumps. Same size as the bumps I skied in vail so this was more of an apples to apples comparison.

I also thought the 101s were less work overall and didn't kill you when you're not skiing them mach 4.
 

Anyone else have this experience?

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ski work poorly when high-centered, that's for sure. those Scott Schmidts a few model years back, grey with yellow flames, were pretty stiff and in bumps you could often have the tips and tails hooking up with huge pressure.

I wonder if Stockli is going to make the new SS Pro more versatile, read, a little less stiff, a little wider, so it's easier for more skiers to handle. are they going after a broader base of skiers? SS is never gonna' be a bump ski however.
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

I wonder if Stockli is going to make the new SS Pro more versatile, read, a little less stiff, a little wider, so it's easier for more skiers to handle. are they going after a broader base of skiers? SS is never gonna' be a bump ski however.
It is my understanding Stockli is doing exactly that ^^^.  

I have the 89mm Schmidt.  Great ski. I used it for hard snow days.   But, it is starting to feel a little thin given that my daily ski is 112mm in the waist.   Probably pick the more relaxed 101 if I can find a really good deal.
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ski work poorly when high-centered, that's for sure. those Scott Schmidts a few model years back, grey with yellow flames, were pretty stiff and in bumps you could often have the tips and tails hooking up with huge pressure.

I wonder if Stockli is going to make the new SS Pro more versatile, read, a little less stiff, a little wider, so it's easier for more skiers to handle. are they going after a broader base of skiers? SS is never gonna' be a bump ski however.


It is definitly less stiff. But still pretty stiff.

I never thought of it as a bump ski but I do come across them and the 101 seemed to be way easier. The 89 is like a plank.

I don't think Stockli changed it to go after a broader base of skiiers. The 101 is still not an easy forgiving ski just more that the 89.

I was wondering what the thoughts were from people who skied both. I will say the 101 did not tire me out as quickly.
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 The 101 has to be easy for sure.

the old one really had no point except maching GS turns in hard conditions
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 The 101 has to be easy for sure.

the old one really had no point except maching GS turns in hard conditions
 

That sure is fun though!!!
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Several of my buds use the 89mm Scott Schmidt for a daily driver, for everything except deep snow. Very fun, strong, fast, smooth, long radius.

The DP Pro was such a flop, considering the cred of Stockli, that I think the Scott Schmidt Pro for 2010 is fixing the problem of making a beast (the DP) more user friendly and versatile.  The new SS actually replaces the DP in terms of niche, deep snow, more so than extending the 89mm model.
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Several of my buds use the 89mm Scott Schmidt for a daily driver, for everything except deep snow. Very fun, strong, fast, smooth, long radius.
 

The 89mm was my daily driver last year.   It also does old school short turns pretty well.
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Several of my buds use the 89mm Scott Schmidt for a daily driver, for everything except deep snow. Very fun, strong, fast, smooth, long radius.

The DP Pro was such a flop, considering the cred of Stockli, that I think the Scott Schmidt Pro for 2010 is fixing the problem of making a beast (the DP) more user friendly and versatile.  The new SS actually replaces the DP in terms of niche, deep snow, more so than extending the 89mm model.


I use it for a daily driver too but I only ski weekdays. Could not imagine skiing them on weekends at hunter mt.
I really enjoy them after a light snow fall of a foot or less. It gets cut up pretty quick and they blast right through it.
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The 89mm was my daily driver last year.   It also does old school short turns pretty well.

 

I am finding that the skis with less sidecut, say 25mm waist to tip or so, do old school short swing turns and any form of edge sliding or checking really well because the edge release is so steady, not so much tip and tail grab, more of an even grip down the entire edge.
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