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Head Mojo vs Head Monster?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
 I am trying to find more information on these skis. What is the difference between the two series?
I am in the market for a new ski, I am trying to come as close to a one ski quiver as possible. I truly like to ski everything, woods, steeps,  bumps, and groomers. I am looking for a ski that is geared more towards off piste. I demoed the volkl bridge and the volkl ac 30 this past weekend at killington.

The conditions were wet powder and crud. I really enjoyed the bridge in the woods and bumps, but I am afraid it would be a little to soft on the hardback. 

I had the opposite feeling about the Ac 30 it was great in the groomers, not so bad on the bumps, but a little to stiff for the steep strees. I have also heard great things on the Volkl mantra, except that it is no good in the bumps, how true is this? is it because it is to stiff? Any info on the 94 mojo or 88 monster, or just the mojo and monster series in general would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot!
post #2 of 12
There is no perfect all mountain,  You have to give it up someplace.  I like the 88 because the new one is lighter and has less metal in it. That means it is easier to handle in the steeps, with a low swing weight, powder and crud.  It is less fast and aggressive on the hard pack but with time you can handle anything with it.  It is not a race ski so don't expect to rail it and pass anyone who has technique and is good on their ski racing technique. So the monster 88 is a winner.  Why it is good at most everything and light enough not to be a pain in the ass. 

I skied the famous dynaster 85 legend this year.  It was average at best, average in the bumps it took sometime to get to know how to work it, it is very heavy with the binding set up, and with a 17 m radius it is still work in short turns and lousey in crud and wet snow. 

So get the 88 or the new name that head gave it a better ski for an all mountain that is really an all mountain that does not take a bunch of runs to get you balance and timing down. 

I skied and obsethed powder ski and while it was slow on the hard pack it out paced all the skies on anytihng but the hard pack. Amazing ski that can do powder, crud, wet snow , bumps and steeps, very light no metal again don't expect a race ski experienc on the hard pack but you can rail the ski and enjoy it for getting in and out of trees, steeps and good and bad deeper snow. 

Dont know it that helps but a lighter ski is better to me, lower swing weight easier to manage inside and outside of its intended use and some of these heavy all mountains are just work for most ski resorts in the US.  if you as skiing glaciers in france well dynastars will be right up there with the best but for the wide range of terrain at most US resorts you need a way more versitle inbound ski and again an 88 or a obsethed even a super wide Rossi S barras 7 with 110 under foot but a super short side cut makes life very cool for anything but ripping groomers. For that just decide that is your day and get a pair of fisher race skis they will rip bumps, and groomers and hard packed steeps better than all of it. 
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input! Do you have any thoughts on the mantra?
post #4 of 12
Originally Posted by drbrmua View Post

Dont know it that helps but a lighter ski is better to me, lower swing weight easier to manage inside and outside of its intended use and some of these heavy all mountains are just work for most ski resorts in the US.

How are you skiing where swing weight is that important above grip, stability, and general handling behaviour ?  Aerials?  Moguls?  Ski ballet?  Constant jump turns? 
post #5 of 12
For the past few seasons I've been very satisfied with a 3 ski quiver:


XRC's for those days when conditions confine one to groomers and for high speed carved turns (68 waist)
Mojo's for deep snow, heavy/crusty snow, spring mush (89 waist)
Monster's (72 waist) for everything.

The Head Monster 72 is the closest thing to a one ski quiver that I've tried (including the Atomic Metrons), and if I had to take a ski trip and could only choose one pair of skis for all conditions, I would take the Monster's. 

The only thing I don't care for is Head's Railflex system, I prefer to mount bindings directly to the ski.
post #6 of 12
Nice!  A well sorted quiver of three.
post #7 of 12
 I don't know where you ski, but if it is in the West and you prefer off-trail, anything narrower than 88mm will not be a good one-ski quiver.  I have not tried the Monster88, but I really like my Mojo94.  I have to yet find the conditions where these skis are not competent.   This year I skies them in soft snow, hard snow, chunky crud, and anything in between.  I have not been on my Dynastar Mythics (which I love) since I got the Head, so Mojo 94 does something right (for me).  It is not a showy ski, it just quietly does the job.  it is stiff and damp enough to not get deflected or to chatter, and it is soft enough to be fun on softer days, and it has enough sidecut to be groomer-competent.  So, it turned out to be a great ski for Tahoe's heavier snow. 

From what I know, Monsters are stiffer and less forgiving than Mojo, and Mojo is a full twin tip ski.  Looks like Monsters are biased towrds hard snow and Mojo likes soft snow more.       
post #8 of 12
I actually asked  a similar question not that long ago....search for my query of the iM88, where others chimed in on it and the mojo.  As well as my full review of the 88 once I bought them.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
I ski mostly on the east coast, where we get alot of hardpack and ice, but you would be suprised some of the stashes you can find in the woods. I also feel like i can carve a softer ski pretty easily, so maybe the mojo would be my best bet? Any thoughts on the mantra? Is it to stiff for off piste?
post #10 of 12
I have the Mojo 90 in a 176 length and can tell you from experience that it does it all.  It is my skinniest ski currently, and my go-to boards for anything from spring slop, small amounts of new snow and yes even those crusty days when you're skating on ice.  I really can just count on them to perform in anything, every time.  They are a fantastic ski, stiff and poppy with a ton of energy in the turns when you really get 'em blasting.  Very rewarding experience for sure!  If you're put off byt he 89 waist, don't be.  I let some groomer zoomers borrow them and they all said the same thing- they couldn't believe the dims, as it felt so much more nimble than they had imagined it would be, and they were amazed at how little you give up to have that extra width for when the freshies fall.   

They have a good amount of sidecut so they're turny yet have the mini twin tip so you can wash them out in the woods and tight terrain easily.  They absolutely rail on groomers and are a blast off piste.  Another thing about them is that they are super durable.  I've hucked to rocks before and expected to see carnage on the bases...  Nothing.  Barely a scuff on the bases.  I borrowed a friend's skis and skied them easier to no avail- four core shots and a major ptex gouge.  The mojos have friggin BOMBER bases and the topsheets have yet to really get rocked up even after 2 years of ABUSE.  The only thing I don't love them in is bumps because they're pretty damn stiff, but the sidecut still makes them palatable in them.    

Really, they're good for everything.  I have been keeping my eyes open for another pair for when these do self destruct someday, I love tham that much.  Buy them, you won't regret it.  Ever. 
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
thanks alot for the input. Every ski i am considering the mjo, peak, prophet 100, mantra, bridge. Everyone says there are not that good in bumps. What ski does perform well in bumps other than a true bump ski? Will any of these skis be worse than my 04 salomn xscreams that I currently have.
post #12 of 12
 If you ski on the East coast conventional wisdom will be for you to get the Monsters over the Mojos. Mojo seems to be more soft-snow biased. 
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