It does appear that you have issues with the word "reaching." Perhaps there is a better one to describe current slalom technique--and perhaps not. PSIA certainly did not invent the word, or its use in skiing, either way!
Personally, I find "Clean Carved Round Reaching Short Turn" far more descriptive than "modern slalom technique, where the skis are extended far outside the body to maximize body angulation, edge angle, and get the most out of the turning radius of the ski," but perhaps that's just me. To me, "reaching" is easier to digest and visualize than "skis extended far outside the body," but I believe that both of you are trying to say the same thing. (I have a hard time visualizing skis extended far INSIDE the body, actually, although with the tone of your posts, I suspect that many people have conjured just that image!) Either way, the point is clearly just to try to communicate something with words, where there is no existing single word to describe it. In fact, whether we like it or not, "reaching" has become pretty common as a way to differentiate modern slalom technique from "traditional." I'm not crazy about it either, but I can accept it.
"Clean Carved Round Reaching Short Turn." When you think about it, it's really a pretty good description of typical modern slalom turns. They are
- CLEAN--in the well-established sense that there is minimal skidding and minimal scraping, hacking noise--like the clean incision of a sharp blade vs. the ragged tear of a rusty nail</font>
- CARVED--often from start to finish, vs. the traditional slalom turn that is carved, if at all, only briefly at the final, harsh edge set.</font>
- ROUND--very much so, vs. the abrupt "J" shape of the traditional "float and sting" slalom turn.</font>
- REACHING--Ahh, here's the contentious word. But as you suggest, the whole body can reach more to the outside, vs. only the lower legs. Use the word "extending," if you prefer, but it's clear you understand what it means.</font>
- SHORT--certainly, as opposed to long....</font>
- TURN--a change of direction--can't argue with that, can you?</font>
Typical modern slalom turns are, indeed, all these things. Here, they're all just words, though, used in an honest attempt to describe something. Six simple words to describe a fairly complex concept--I'd hardly call that "jargon." If they fail to paint the right picture for you, or if you have better words, by all means state that. That's what this forum is about.
If you think that less description is needed, because everyone understands what you mean without it, then just say "modern slalom turns," or just "slalom turns," or just "turns." But don't be surprised or offended if, as Ryan did here, someone asks you to elaborate a little to clarify your meaning.
In any case, a picture is still worth a thousand words!
Traditional slalom--"quick on and off the edges"; "float and sting":
Modern Slalom--"Clean Carved Round Reaching Short Turns":
Maybe that will help. Call 'em what you want, but I wouldn't call ANY of those turns "not good skiing"!
Bob Barnes[ August 27, 2003, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: Bob Barnes/Colorado ]