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Bump Skis For Newbie To Bumps -- Dynastar Twisters?

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
OK, I've done some research here and elsewhere and it seems that the Twisters (168m) may be a good choice (I thing they are still available).

Here's my background info.  I am 5' 9", weigh 160.  I came to skiing later in life than most but over past four years, I've gotten in about 40 days per year and have made much progress.  I now ski on 167 cm Recons on both groomed and ungroomed terrain.  I consider myself to be an advanced intermediate and I tend to ski aggressively but always in control.  I ski both east and west.  I have taken lessons over the years, but am primarily self-taught (first using Lito's book, later HH, and Mark Ellings book).  I just bought and read (in one sitting), Dan DiPiro's bump book -- he makes a lot of sense.  The other day I took a group lesson at Snowbasin (they have a great deal, 4 days of lift tickets and lessons for $200)  .  They put me in the highest group after the ski off and unfortunately I was the best of that group.  Clearly, I'm not going to learn much from these type of lessons any more.  Time to go to a ski camp?  Anyway, I told the instructor, a guy who supposedly grew up skiing Alta and Snowbird, that I was interested in getting into the bumps.  I could tell from his answer that if indeed we did do bumps over the next 4 lessons he would be teaching it all wrong (DiPiro is right about this). 

So, I think the best thing for me to do at this juncture is to buy some bump skis and to teach myself using DiPiro's guidance.  Hence, my question about the right ski for me.  Pls let me know if any additional info would be helpful.
post #2 of 6
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Nobody has any guidance / opinions?  Argh . . .
post #3 of 6
I think all the veterans who really know skis are out skiing.  I'm not one of the vets, but since I'm stuck in my office and able to respond I'll give you my $.02 worth: 

(a) You might want to check out the Realskiers reviews.  They award a symbol for skis that are good for "true bumps" and another symbol for those that are good for "mild bumps".  My own skis, Volkl AC-20s, got the "true bumps" symbol and, indeed, I can testify that my skis have not been the limiting factor in my relative ability at skiing bumps and moguls.

(b) You might also want to check out the reviews in Ski magazine and Skiing magazine.  Both are posted on the Skinet site.  I believe one or both rates skis for "bumpability". 
post #4 of 6
You should be able to approach bumps in your Recons. That is my opinion on skis. But that being said, a bump progression should begin with the assumption that you can make good short radius turns. That being said, you can take your Recons into an intermediate slope and begin by traversing across the hill, narrowing the traverse as you make your way down. But, while you are traversing, stack yourself over the boots, and keep your shins nice up against the front of the boot. As you go over the bumps, using your ankles, pull your feet up a little, as you go down push your feet down. All of this should take place from the knees down, hip over feet, and only pushing with the ankles. Once this is fun for you and you like it, find a bump, and extend on the top, flattening both skis and turn (pivot) your feet in the direction you want to go.

You can repeat this, or another idea is to do falling leafs around the bumps until you can't stand it anymore and you have to turn!
post #5 of 6
Don't worry about the skis at this stage; it sound like you are more interested in technique.  You should be able to hammer bumps just fine with your Recons.  Heck, I was bashing bumps with Line Motherships all last week.  Not pretty, but the end result is about 95% skier and 5% ski.  Work on that 95% skier part first, then when you get ready to turn pro, consider mogul skis.  That's the point where the last 5% will really come into play.

Dan DiPiro's book is very good, but I can't say reading it and then practicing helped me to perfection (it was helpful though, and a good read).  If it were possible, someday I'd like to take a lesson from Dan directly.  Sometimes there is no substitute for on-snow experience with the right instructor.  Maybe that's what you need to do if you're serious.  He teaches at one of the NH resorts if I recall correctly.
post #6 of 6
So I just picked up a copy of DiPiros book and was a bit shocked. Not because he lays out the foundation of solid fall line mogul skiing, but because Ive been preaching this foundation without even knowing this book existed. And here I was ready to start over with apple pie french fry on the bunny hill...

Anyway, the 2010 twister seems like a solid ski. The only thing stopping me from trying out a pair and giving some real feedback is the fact the ski is a bit too short for my taste and I have no burning desire to try something new. I think Dynastar is going back to the ski designs where mogul skis were actually the best and most durable all mountain skis on the market. I would recommend you switch to this style of ski sooner than later if this is the style you wish to pursue. You know you are on the right mogul ski when you start rippin carved turns, sliding into nice skids, and popping effortless jump turns on the flats using the ski alone. The key is combining the best of the race world, edges and stiffness, with the best of the mogul world, flex. Kind of sounds familiar...
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