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post #1 of 11
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Hey all -  I'm looking at getting a new pair of skis.   I do the majority of my skiing in the East (Quebec), but get out west for a couple weeks a year.  I'm looking to get a second set to use in powder and trees (when its in the East) and something good enough to take out west.  I'm an advanced skier, do about 60% on and 40% off, but would like to get in the trees more.  I'm 5 11 and weigh 230.  I've been looking at the head peak 78/82, fischer watea 78, K2 Explorer, atomic crimson Ti.  Am I on the right track - any suggestions?  Also, what length would you suggest?  Thanks for your help - Ski Hard!
post #2 of 11
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Originally Posted by countyskier View Post

Hey all -  I'm looking at getting a new pair of skis.   I do the majority of my skiing in the East (Quebec), but get out west for a couple weeks a year.  I'm looking to get a second set to use in powder and trees (when its in the East) and something good enough to take out west.  I'm an advanced skier, do about 60% on and 40% off, but would like to get in the trees more.  I'm 5 11 and weigh 230.  I've been looking at the head peak 78/82, fischer watea 78, K2 Explorer, atomic crimson Ti.  Am I on the right track - any suggestions?  Also, what length would you suggest?  Thanks for your help - Ski Hard!

whats your first ski?
post #3 of 11
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I'm currently skiing Atomic Izor 7:5
post #4 of 11
your not going to take my advice ....

.....but I d go MUCH fatter than anything you mentioned Id also go rockered.  all the skis you mentioned are hardpack skis not tree/powder skis.

not even a question in my mind. Rocker/fatter skis are much quicker offtrail than other skis especially when there is some soft snow for them to grab and use. If its hard you have a hard snow ski already.

at your weight depending on what you get 180 min as well.

some suggestions 

Rossi S3 - 186cm
Volkl Katana - 183cm or even 190cm
Volkl Gotama - 184cm 
2011 Volkl Bridge - size not know yet will have ELP as well
K2 Obseth - 179cm
Head Jimi - 181cm
Atomic Blog - 185cm
Atomic Bentchentler - 183cm
Fisher watea 114 - 186cm

the deal is you can make you izor work in alittle bit of snow and/or hardpack off trail, most of the above will work on hardpack quite well and some like the Katana and S3 will be down right nimble in skied out trees. 

disregard what you think about turn radius, ski lenght and ski waist and get your first fat(and maybe rockered) ski.
post #5 of 11
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hey thanks for the advice.  Why wouldn't i take your advice?  I don't know what I need - thats why I'm asking.  I'll take a look at what you suggested.  Any other thoughts out there?
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by countyskier View Post

hey thanks for the advice.  Why wouldn't i take your advice?  I don't know what I need - thats why I'm asking.  I'll take a look at what you suggested.  Any other thoughts out there?

because people are sometime scared about going so wide. 

IMO the S3 would be one of the easiest for you to adapt to and is on the narrower end of the spectrum so it would handle hardpack better than most of that list. Whiteroom has a pair and is about your size. 

If you really like that ski in a couple of year get something bigger.

curious where do yu normally ski>
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 

I normally spend a month out in the Eastern Townships of Quebec.  I spend most of my time at Orford, Sutton, Owls Head, and Jay.  I haven't been able to make it down to Stowe or any of the other Vermont or Maine hills.  I rarely get a good powder day, but I'm always wishing I had the right skis when I do.  I'm heading out West in a couple of weeks to drive around the powder highway for the first time.   I'd like to get one set of skis I can take out there that will do most anything, and be my powder ski in the east.  Thats why I was looking at the smaller widths. 

post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
What about the Peak 88 or Watea 94?
post #9 of 11
 Here's my take, since you seem to have a pretty similar skiing profile to me.  I'm also 230 lbs. (pure muscle of course ) and have similar ski needs.  I completely agree with BwPa about going much fatter, even for east coast skiing - although I'm not so sure about the rocker part.

I have worked my way up over the years in width and I think I'd go with ~87mm minimum for your powder ski.  That would be a decent width powder and trees in the east and workable out west.  However, at my weight, I prefer 105mm or better for more forgiveness, much better float and better control in variable chop even in tight steep eastern glades.  A ski that's too narrow sinks too much for me and won't release and turn quick enough in tight conditions and obviously is far better out west.

You'd probably be OK on a 180, or even a 185 especially if it is a twin tip or has zero camber or some rocker.  I ski a 181cm Blizzard Magnum 8.7 as my all mtn.ski and it rips almost everywhere.  It's a little stiff for tight bumps though.  Then I have a 105mm wide Blizzard Answer in a 185cm.  I though I'd only be skiing these out west, but last year on an epic powder day in late March at Killington, I found these to be an absolute blast in some steep tight deep powder glades.  That completely changed my outlook on fat skis as a weapon for the east.

The Answers do have some camber and I have no problem with that anywhere but they're also a twin tip.  I tried the rockered skis on day last year at Targhee in deep snow and they were a hoot but I hated them anywhere else.  I'm not ready for those yet.  

I have lots of friends that slay everything on Mantras, but they also weigh 50 lbs less than I do.  Bigger guys need much wider skis for decent float - just ask Physicsman (whatever happened to him anyhow?).
post #10 of 11
After asking myself the above question (Whatever happened to Physicsman), I decided to search his name and found this old post of his:
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/41637/82-mm-skis-should-be-good-enough-for-a-foot-of-snow

I didn't read the whole thread again, just the first post.  But I remembered it.  He was right back then and he's right now.  I think only really big guys will be able to appreciate the truth of this and I have found it to be 100% accurate.  
post #11 of 11
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Thanks for your input - I'm currently looking at the Head John 94 180's.  They sound like they are very versitile to handle many different conditions and situations well and are wide enough to enjoy the pow too.  They sound like a good starting point for my first foray into wider freeride skis. 
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