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post #1 of 7
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I just got back from testing some skis at Stratton, and the evolution of skis got me thinking a bit about the lessons that skiers have learned from snowboarders. From the early 70's until the mid-nineties there was a stagnant lull in ski design but from then until now we have seen an explosion in new ideas and technology. What is responsible for this? Snowboarding. 

Someone saw a snowboarder rail a pure carved turn and said: How'd he do that? A little investigation led to the first super-sidecut skis. Someone said what if we tried a sidecut like that on a ski?

Someone watched snowboarders playing in a terrain park and thought: What if you turned up the back of the ski so you could jump and land backward? You know, like a snowboard. We should try that with skis. The start of twintips.

Everyone knows snowboards work great in powder... maybe if skis were wider, like a snowboard... we should try that with skis! Fat skis rule.

So, what I really came up with is- instead of trying to make skiing more like snowboarding, should we all have just started snowboarding? Wouldn't that make more sense? 'cause let's face it, their boots are way more comfortable.



 
post #2 of 7
 You first!
post #3 of 7
Take two aspirin and call someone in the morning.

SJ
post #4 of 7
1)      Skiers jamming two feet together, as we did 40 years ago, effectively doubled the surface beneath us. This was a way to do what the early snowboards attempted to do.
2)      Monoskis were really the first snowboards. Monoskiers don’t have a blind spot like snowboarders, and don’t have to take off their bindings to go up lifts, get across flats (they use poles), etc.
3)      Snowboard boots are indeed more comfortable. They have to be comfortable since snowboarders are constantly taking a boot out of it’s binding so they can go up lifts, get across anything flat, etc.
4)      Anyone can get down a hill snowboarding with fewer lessons than skiers need. This partially explains the growth behind snowboarding and totally explains why there are so many out of control boarders on the slopes during the holidays.
5)      Snowboarders are like skiers in that most couldn’t carve a turn to save their lives.
6)      Snowboards do work much better in powder than skinny skis. Skis recently got fatter to the point where both skis and boards work equally well in powder. 
7)      The average boarder can’t ride as fast as a skier under control. Stiffer boots, using two feet independently, and having a more stable surface makes skiers much more stable at speed. Think about it, are there any downhill or super-g competitions for snowboarders?
8)      Snowboards aren’t a lot of fun in moguls, but are great at scraping snow when going sideways straight down a slope.
9)      Snowboarders, for whatever reason, leave their brains at home when they dress for a day on the slopes. Wearing hooded cotton sweatshirts is not a great way to stay warm in the snow. There are plenty of ugly waterproof synthetic s for them to wear.
10)   Snowboards seem like more fun in the park and pipe. I wouldn't know because I'm too old for that s___.
11)   Snowboards are easier to carry through airports and easier to throw in a car.

 
post #5 of 7
I had twin tip skis in 1975, and those were Johnny-come-lately's. Look up goon skis.
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I just got back from testing some skis at Stratton, and the evolution of skis got me thinking a bit about the lessons that skiers have learned from snowboarders. From the early 70's until the mid-nineties there was a stagnant lull in ski design but from then until now we have seen an explosion in new ideas and technology. What is responsible for this? Snowboarding. 

Someone saw a snowboarder rail a pure carved turn and said: How'd he do that? A little investigation led to the first super-sidecut skis. Someone said what if we tried a sidecut like that on a ski?

Someone watched snowboarders playing in a terrain park and thought: What if you turned up the back of the ski so you could jump and land backward? You know, like a snowboard. We should try that with skis. The start of twintips.

Everyone knows snowboards work great in powder... maybe if skis were wider, like a snowboard... we should try that with skis! Fat skis rule.

So, what I really came up with is- instead of trying to make skiing more like snowboarding, should we all have just started snowboarding? Wouldn't that make more sense? 'cause let's face it, their boots are way more comfortable.



 

OT I want to snowboard. Are the Liberty Genomes being demoed? :)
post #7 of 7
I disagree.  
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