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post #31 of 62
Hockey is over.   Good game!
post #32 of 62
The video is now featuring Italian lessons.
post #33 of 62
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston View Post

The video is now featuring Italian lessons.

I like that the video is now the raw feed, sans commentary.  Kinda fun to see how they while their time - reminds me of the snow days at Snowbasin in 2001, where most of the teams went powder skiing.
post #34 of 62
Julia Mancuso and Chemmy Alcott talk show.
post #35 of 62
The skiing probably won't go off today.  The question in that case is whether they should re-run both runs when the event is rescheduled?

WC rules require both runs to be made in the same day.  Of course the Americans would very much want to have another shot at Run 1, the Austrians, not so much. 

What do you think?  Assuming Run 2 is canceled today, should they rerun both runs on the rescheduled day?
Edited by Cirquerider - 2/24/10 at 3:09pm
post #36 of 62
It's like an extremely long moment of zen.
post #37 of 62
Julia and Chemmy are the official IBC lens cleaners, it seems.
post #38 of 62
 And this kind of rainy-fog mixture must be destroying the course.  Notice how no course workers are laying a ski/shovel/rake on the course, lest they turn it into death cookies.

I'm thinking this race is in the cooler 'til tomorrow.

ETA: video now showing course crew stashing their rakes, shovels and scoops.  It's done.

ETA2: just heard Atle Skaardal propose postponing the second run to tomorrow.  Jury needs to agree on it, but that's that.
post #39 of 62
Actually, they can run the second run another day - the rules just say it's supposed to be the same day, "whenever possible."
post #40 of 62
The jury agrees with songfta.
post #41 of 62
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston View Post

Actually, they can run the second run another day - the rules just say it's supposed to be the same day, "whenever possible."

True, but the jury can override in extreme cases.  It's now officially postponed until tomorrow, according to Skaardal.  He's advising folks to slip down outside of the set course.
post #42 of 62
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This is turning out to be a disaster for the Olympics and, perhaps, Whistler tourism. They are running out of "free days" to hold races.  If www.weather.com is correct, there will be only one decent day before the end of the games.    Anyhow, I gotta go to COSTCO and pick up some steaks before the next hockey game.  At least all the Zambonis are still working.

post #43 of 62
They just reported on TV that they'll run a second run tomorrow.  They will decide at a meeting later today whether to do two runs, or do a single second run tomorrow.
post #44 of 62
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They will decide at a meeting later today whether to do two runs, or do a single second run tomorrow.

Am I reading that correctly? They may cancel today's race run, and start all over tomorow? That would seriously be horrible news for the Austrians, and good news for others.
post #45 of 62
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Am I reading that correctly? They may cancel today's race run, and start all over tomorow? That would seriously be horrible news for the Austrians, and good news for others.

They managed to make it through the entire field in the first run, which leads me to believe that they'll simply run the second heat tomorrow and call it a race.  If they'd only made it through, say, racer 40 (thus leaving a majority of the field as DNS), then there would be just cause for a complete mulligan.

Tomorrow was an open day in the schedule, anyway.
post #46 of 62
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Am I reading that correctly? They may cancel today's race run, and start all over tomorow? That would seriously be horrible news for the Austrians, and good news for others.

Yep, you read that correctly.  There will be a decision later today whether or not to disallow today's run and run two tomorrow, or just do a second run.  The Austrian's will obviously argue for the later.  Stay tuned.
post #47 of 62
Ski Racing reports that they'll do the second run at 9:30 tomorrow. No mention of even the possibility of re-running the first run. Same with the news story posted on the FIS's own alpine website.

FIS rules allow the first and second runs to be on two different days.

On the video feed, we could hear the jury on the walkie talkies agreeing to postpone the second run until tomorrow - in that discussion (though it was very brief), there was no mention of the possibility of re-running the first run.
post #48 of 62
In further news, it was just reported on Canadian television that Lindsay Vonn broke a finger on her right hand in today's run, and the coaches have said she won't run GS tomorrow.  They are hopeful she will be able to run slalom later this week.
post #49 of 62
It's a jury decision. This could be very interesting. The Austrians have always been bullies, arrogant, and "in charge". I thing a lot of people are delighting in their weak performance to date. The defending gold medalist was absolutely screwed by a short start interval in lousy weather. Now, I've been in the position before where I had to make the call to shorten intervals due to weather coming in, etc....but in real low level junior USSA races. IMO, zero excuse for having two racers on course at once in the top 30 in the Olympic games. Yellow flagging in an Olympic GS, in the seed?? Sucks.

There may be some sentiment to "help" Julia, and some to keep driving the knife into the Austrians. Not that there is a lot of American love. Depends on who's on the jury. I was just surprised that Skaardal mentioned the possibility of two runs right up front. Heck it's the Olympics. It always needs nationalistic drama!!
post #50 of 62
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston View Post

Ski Racing reports that they'll do the second run at 9:30 tomorrow. No mention of even the possibility of re-running the first run.

FIS rules allow the first and second runs to be on two different days.

On the video feed, we could hear the jury on the walkie talkies agreeing to postpone the second run until tomorrow - in that discussion (though it was very brief), there was no mention of the possibility of re-running the first run.

I agree the chances of running both runs over tomorrow is extremely slim.  I was just relating what was reported on television.
post #51 of 62
Incidentally, the jury is:

Peter Krogoll of Germany, TD
Atle Skaardal of Norway, Referee
Bruce Holliday of Canada, Chief of Race
Herbert Klammer of Italy, Start Referee (Start Ref is an official member of the jury for the Olympics)
Jana Palovicova of Slovakia, Finish Referee (ditto)

Another interesting note, from the results sheet, is that the second run will be (well, I guess already was) set by Anja Paerson's father.
post #52 of 62
Sounds like the jury had decided. Right thing to do, IMO. Still feel badly for JM.

Too bad about the broken pinkie finger for LV. My understanding is that there has been a fair amount of discussion as to whether LV should have withdrawn from the SL and the GS, and worked on her rehab, setting her up to win the WC overall. You may have read it in Greg Needell's blog, as well. IMO, she had zero chance of a medal in the GS. That's the discipline that she needs to work on, and dial in her new skis.

It will take a minor miracle for her to get on the podium with her recent SL skiing, the shin, the wrist, the snow surface and weather, and now the pinkie. It would be a real shame if she punted her chances for the overall by continuing at Whistler. She still has seven WC starts {one GS, one SL}. The only thing that can stop her is aggravating that shin, or something worse.
post #53 of 62
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post #54 of 62
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Based upon the great 2nd run she laid down, Julia got shafted yesterday with the re-run.  Very sad.
post #55 of 62
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Great finish for those who watched.  Maze takes a second silver.  Rebensburg wins by .04.  Julia got shafted yesteredy.  She might not have podiumed anyway, but she got shafted.

Edited by quant2325 - 2/25/10 at 10:31am
post #56 of 62
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post #57 of 62
Good thing they got the race in. It was getting socked in again by the end, and that seemed to affect the later skiers..
post #58 of 62
  Here's my rant:
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I'm still fuming over the decision to flag Julia yesterday. Having looked at video, and talked to people there, IMO,there was no need to flag her. I posted yesterday that her re-run performace was remarkable. So if I play with results, and knock a second off her re-run, accounting for all of the issues {the course, the nerves, the skis, being drained and cold, not pre-start routine}, and if I take her run today and add to it for a bit later start position due to a better result yesterday, say a half second......That puts her off the gold medal by .05.  I will always believe that se could have done it, as if nothing else she has been a big stage and big event skier for all of her career. That episode yesterday sucked. I have been heavily involved in high level competitive racing for 40+ years. I know all the rules. I get it. I don't need to hear that "it's ski racing."  Still, it's just too bad. Not to mention that it may have cost JM, had she delivered, MILLIONS of dollars in income.

Very sad. Good skiing today. Fairly new face on top, and nice day for Maze.

 
Done. On to the SL's.
post #59 of 62
From what I saw, I wouldn't have called for a yellow flag either. Consider, though, that we're talking about a decision that was made by one official (we don't know who, or at least I don't) in a matter of seconds, with the biggest star in women's ski racing (probably all ski racing) lying on the ground. If nobody ever made a mistake in that situation (erring, in this case, on the side of safety), we'd live in a different sort of world.
post #60 of 62
Thread Starter 
If there will be SL races!  www.weather.com isn't expecting cool, dry or sunny weather. 
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