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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hi All,

I'm a disabled skier from Oz & wondering if anyone can help re info on good resorts & instructors (or how to find good instructors).

Also info on how disabled systems work in their part of the world.In Oz once assessed by DWSA I simply produce my passport & recieve a 50% discount for tickets & lessons at any resort - I use the normal ski school & they give me suitable instructors.

Some instructor friends here suggested I try Alpine Meadows & Winter Park - but that was a dead loss - I couldn't even get a sensible email answer from them. I tried the disabled associations - no response.
I tried PSIA & CSIA - got a response from CSIA - they said "Can't help try CADS" - CADS said " Tell us when & where you want to ski?" - ummmm - I was asking how the system works & for suggestions where to go......

Eventually went to Whistler with a ski improvement course - not a brilliant decision. Also I must say that I was unimpressed with the general level of instructors (Apologies to Kevin - who is AWESOME). They seem unable to think outside the square. I need instructors with an ability to come at a problem from many different angles - as I have an unusual disability

Thanks & sorry if this is the wrong Forum - it was unclear where I should post.

[ May 26, 2002, 04:41 AM: Message edited by: disski ]
post #2 of 16

If you don't mind me asking what part\parts are not working properly? If I know this I may be able to assist.

All said and done Winter Park has the USA Disabled Ski Academy which is the preminent program\facility in North America. Vail Colorado has an excellent program run by the ski school and also excellent varied terrain for ski training.

Oz [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #3 of 16
disski, my daughter instructs at WP. I know she has to wait a while to get answers to e-mails outside the season - did you contact them after they had closed for the season?
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
Skimum - no sent emails after the close of OUR last season. Still waiting

Disability - proprioceptive loss (also appears to be some loss of reflexes).
Sensory nerves OK (in fact I appear to be hypersensitive to touch - but maybe I just pay more attention as I seem to use it to compensate)
post #5 of 16
I'll throw in my two cents.

On the positive side: we have some Bears who are disabled and/or instruct. Hopefully they are around during the summer to answer you. I believe whmtn(?) is the coordinator in Loon(or was it Cannon) in Northern New Hampshire. Some of his mountain made it to the Paraolympics.

Earlier in the season when I asked for videos to show my students, several Bears helped. However when I asked the specific Organizations mentioned, no one had a video showing Olympic quality runs.

In New York, most areas don't have a qualified instructor, and will hem and haw until you decide not to show up. Windham Mountain, about 2 hours north of New York City has a wonderful fully staffed program and is a major educational center.

In Vermont, Okemo Mountain (central Vermont) is marvelous with their Adaptive Ski program. If you do decide to go anywhere in Vermont, if you give the mountain 1-2 days notice, the ski schools have a "loaner" policy. They will send a qualified instructor with whatever specialized gear you need.

I apologize if I did a broad stroke about certain areas. If I am wrong, please add to this thread.
post #6 of 16
Hi, I am a Adaptive Instructor @ Mt. Bachelor,Oregon. Welcome to Epic Ski. I will try to answer any questions you might have. You might want to look at our website for more information. Oregon Adaptive Skiing You can also PM me if you like.
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
Don't need any special equipment.
Except maybe that I ski a pair of slalom racing skis that are great for Oz ice & crud - not so good for powder(that we really don't get much of) [img]redface.gif[/img]

I am fascinated by the concept of specialty instructors....
In Oz I believe all instructors receive some training re disabled skiers - some would list it as one of their specialty areas (like 'scared people')
I currently ski with 2 examiner/trainers(Falls) & my 2 Thredbo instructors have a racing background - but are just GOOD general instructors(very good at lateral thinking). I seem to have good success with those from a Race type background & examiners as I am a very technical learner. My belief is that the ability to understand what is happening& what should happen gives me some feel of control of the situation - YES - I am a control freak!
post #8 of 16
disski, I sent you a PM. Hope you have a good ski season.
post #9 of 16
Maine Handicap Skiing, based primerialy out of Sunday River Ski Area in Bethel ME has a huge program with over 300 hundred handicap instructors. They also have a year round staff, so they will reply to your e-mail. Contact them www.skimhs.org
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks All

nolo & slider - thanks for the PM's

slider - WOW! - thanks heaps for that

Nolo - like the idea of some sort of site/info - but would it be a good idea to have links from or have it under the auspices of your national association? I'll work on ours - because they were not able to advise me either.
post #11 of 16

Could you fill us in a bit more on proprioceptive loss. Is this common? Cause or onset?
post #12 of 16
If you're planning a trip to Colorado. Breckenridge has an outstanding progam that's offered through the Breckenridge Outdoor Education Center. They can handle both physical and cognitive disabilities. They also offer a great summer program.Their phone number is 970-453-6422. Good luck in your search.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Propriceptive loss is mostly associated with brain injury.
So mostly the people I know that deal with this say they see stroke patients or patients with brain damage from eg car accidents

The 'different' part with me is that apart from some decrease in my reflexes(my knee doesn't jerk - but the muscles twitch) - which may or may not be related - I have normal functioning.

So I can control a muscle just fine - once I work out how to move it & how fast it will go & etc etc. Took years for anyone to teach me to 'flex ankle'. I still need to watch my hands all the time - otherwise they wander - feet are easier - they are in contact with snow(well almost) - so I can feel what they are doing using sensory nerves.

A good description of proprioceptive loss is in "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For a Hat"
the chapter on "The disembodied lady" describes it - but she also loses other function(sensory)

[ May 28, 2002, 03:14 PM: Message edited by: disski ]
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
Any info on how the system works?

How do I register & with who?
Will theywant to do a new assessment?(ie dr's etc) or will they accept my Australian Disabled Passport as suitable?
post #15 of 16
Welcome to the forum! Sorry I have not been around to get in on this discussion! I am glad someone mentioned whtmt I work with him at Loon Mtn in New Hampshire. Please feel free to contact me with any questions. I am the program director with the White Mountain Adaptive Snowsports School at Loon Mountain. WHTMT is our Technical Director and the best around. Our program like most of the others in the states is separate from ski school. we have around 100 adaptive instructors both able-bodied and disabled, about 60% of those have certification from PSIA in Adaptive and or Alpine skiing.
As for the system here in the state the main organization for disabled sports is
"Disabled Sports USA" you can get to their web page at www.dsusa.org most adaptive ski schools are chapters of that and will offer you a substantial discount if you show a dsusa membership card when buying a ticket (we give 50%) a yearly membership costs $15 and can be bought at any of the chapters of dsusa. Please visit our program page at www.dsusa-ne.org to get an idea of our program as I said please let me know if you have other question. I am not online much at this point so I will PM you with a better contact.
another spot for info might be www.psia.org and look for the adaptive section
Life is short, ski often! [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #16 of 16


Contact the folks at Adaptive Adventures http://www.adaptiveadventures.org/
They are an excellent resource for finding an instructor or resort near you that can accommodate your needs. Sitski.com also has a lot of information but it is self serve you can talk to a person at Adaptive. Happy trails
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